[News] UPD: Sharks claim Duehr off waivers from Flames

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by Mindtravellee

Is Parker Bell ready?

Hunt probably makes the most sense as he shouldn't need adjustment time

No, he only has 6 points in 31 games this year.

If there's a callup it'll be between Hunt, Klapka, Stromgren, Morton, Honzek, Frk and Bishop, with the latter 3 being very unlikely

[Naitix]

Stromgren has 30 points in his last 31 games (had 1 point in the first 8 games of the season), it should be him getting the call up, not Hunt.

Stromgren is 21, Hunt is 29, it's a no brainer

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by D as in David

What do you mean by "off days"? Are the other teams having off days, too?

sorry I meant days between games.
Save some money etc. But whatever, was just a thought.

*shrugs*

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Stromgren has 30 points in his last 31 games (had 1 point in the first 8 games of the season), it should be him getting the call up, not Hunt.

Stromgren is 21, Hunt is 29, it's a no brainer

depends on the role...21 year old playing top AHL minutes is not a bad thing IMO

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Whether Duehr clears or not, it might just be the last time we've seen him in the NHL for the Flames.

1 point in 16 games, -6. Not atrocious, but very much the definition of a warm body or replacement level player. He's 27, so this is pretty much what he is at this point. Someone who can produce pretty well in the AHL but can't do much in the NHL.

I'm sure another team will take a chance on him because of his size and speed, but I think we have to look at someone else at this point. He's had enough games over the past few years to see what he can do.

[Enoch Root]

Over this last callup, I never noticed him once, in a positive way. Not one single shift.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Once Huska gets his hands on Hunt he doesn't view him as a 4th liner, he has him up the lineup. The swiss knife.

Maybe it's time to rethink the Flames' entire concept of the 4th line. Putting a bunch of tweener crash and banger "energy players" together has only resulted in that line being perennially caved in, regardless of who has played on it.

I like SuperMatt18's idea posted above of trying to recreate the magic of the Wranglers' Pelletier-Kerins-Hunt line, as a different kind of 4th line that can add energy by means of puck possession and offensive zone time, even if they can't score at the same pace as they did in the AHL.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Maybe it's time to rethink the Flames' entire concept of the 4th line. Putting a bunch of tweener crash and banger "energy players" together has only resulted in that line being perennially caved in, regardless of who has played on it.

I like SuperMatt18's idea posted above of trying to recreate the magic of the Wranglers' Pelletier-Kerins-Hunt line, as a different kind of 4th line that can add energy by means of puck possession and offensive zone time, even if they can't score at the same pace as they did in the AHL.

Jankowski - Ryan - Mangiapane was a great 4th line for us in 18/19.

Huska seems to have his mind made up on how a 4th line should be constructed, he talked about it in 23/24.

I agree with SuperMatt that having a skilled 4th line that can skate, and create energy by holding pucks and creating chances is better.

When the only thing the 4th line is built for is hitting it means they hardly touch the puck.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Whether Duehr clears or not, it might just be the last time we've seen him in the NHL for the Flames.

1 point in 16 games, -6. Not atrocious, but very much the definition of a warm body or replacement level player. He's 27, so this is pretty much what he is at this point. Someone who can produce pretty well in the AHL but can't do much in the NHL.

I'm sure another team will take a chance on him because of his size and speed, but I think we have to look at someone else at this point. He's had enough games over the past few years to see what he can do.

Other than some sort of catastrophic # of injuries occurring, I agree. While I still have some doubts about Klapka, he could get an opportunity to show what he's got with a longer stay.

[Freddy]

I hope Duehr clears and helps the Wranglers continue their winning season. I am excited to see Kerins stay and try his hand at centre.

[Badgers Nose]

I hope he gets claimed. It’s time for him to move on.

[Freeway]

Fourth line in 18-19 was Mangiapane-Ryan-Hathaway. If I recall properly, Jankowski was centring the third line.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Whether Duehr clears or not, it might just be the last time we've seen him in the NHL for the Flames.

1 point in 16 games, -6. Not atrocious, but very much the definition of a warm body or replacement level player. He's 27, so this is pretty much what he is at this point. Someone who can produce pretty well in the AHL but can't do much in the NHL.

I'm sure another team will take a chance on him because of his size and speed, but I think we have to look at someone else at this point. He's had enough games over the past few years to see what he can do.

It kind of is atrocious really. On pace for 5 points and -30.

[Bingo]

I just don't think he has the processing speed to do what he does in the AHL at the NHL level.

Every time he gets the pucks he appears to get the yips.

I'd love the younger fourth line option from an entertainment standpoint. I'm good with it if it's young guys that will likely be lower roster players when they evolve.

Not sure it's the best way to break top six talent into the league with 6.5 minutes of ice time per night though. But that's a debate we've had for years, and will likely have again now!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Over this last callup, I never noticed him once, in a positive way. Not one single shift.

He did what usually happens with guys that just aren't good enough for the NHL.

His energy and play was noticable for the first game or two, I remember him actually playing physical and think his assist was in either game 1 or 2 of the call up.

Then after that he was just invisible.

Originally Posted by Bingo

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I'd love the younger fourth line option from an entertainment standpoint. I'm good with it if it's young guys that will likely be lower roster players when they evolve.

Not sure it's the best way to break top six talent into the league with 6.5 minutes of ice time per night though. But that's a debate we've had for years, and will likely have again now!

Might as well get into it then...what always drives me crazy with this argument is that people always exaggerate how little the 4th line plays.

4th line plays a lot more than 6:30 per game. 4th line on the Flames appears to be averaging about 8:30 per game right now, and honestly it could probably be closer to 10 minutes quite easily.

Flames play ~52 minutes at even strength each game:

Kadri: 15 minutes (currently 16)
Backlund: 14 minutes (currently 15)
Zary: 13 minutes
4th: 10 minutes

It's pretty much one less shift a game for the top 2 lines goes to the 4th line and they are playing 10 minutes a night. And if the line was actually more of a skilled young line instead of the way it's constructed now you'd be comfortable doing that.

Looking back at the 4th line in 18/19 and both Ryan and Mangiapane averaged about 10 minutes of ES ice time per game (Hathaway a little lower at 8:30)

Now it doesn't mean you should rush guys like Honzek into the NHL on the 4th line but there is no reason a guy like Pelletier (140 career AHL games), Kerins (100 career AHL games), and maybe a more veteran guy (Lomberg / Hunt) could be an effective 4th line that can play 10 minutes a night.

[sureLoss]

claimed by SJ

https://twitter.com/user/status/1882141843808514144

[Locke]

Huh. Well...best of luck to him.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Win-win. Duehr continues to try and contribute on an nhl roster, and if waived again then we grab him for the ahl run.

[dustygoon]

It does seem the Flames have a disproportionate number of players getting claimed. We have so many bubble players! Probably biased take since i don't follow all teams.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Fourth line in 18-19 was Mangiapane-Ryan-Hathaway. If I recall properly, Jankowski was centring the third line.

Lol correct, I was thinking Hathaway and typing Jankowski for some reason.