01-11-2025, 11:35 PM
|
#1
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
|
Half year player projections and player grades
Grades for me are based on what I expected from the player this year..
Huberdeau:
GP: 41, G: 18, A: 13, Pts: 31
Projected Pace:
GP: 82, G: 36, A: 26, Pts: 62
Grade: B+
Not a PPG player but with this team and the low offense and the way he has retooled his game is pretty impressive. Still not worth the price tag, but OMG sooo much better.
Kadri:
GP: 41, G: 15, A: 14, Pts: 29
Projected Pace:
GP: 82, G: 30, A:28, Pts: 58
Grade: B
Pretty reliable guy, especially in the third periods. Chemistry with Huberdeau yay.
Weegar:
GP: 41, G: 5, A: 17, Pts: 22
GP: 82, G: 10, A: 34, Pts: 44
Grade: B+
Not quite his 20 goal season but still playing damn well, heart and soul guy.
Zary:
GP: 40, G: 10, A: 12, Pts: 22
GP: 80, G: 20, A: 24, Pts: 44
Grade: A-
No sophomore slump, great 1 on 1 play. I know he won't get 80 games but I still wanted to show what he was on pace for, kind of a Backlund+ pace in Year 2. Love this guy.
Coronado:
GP: 36, G: 10, A: 12, Pts: 22
GP: 77, G: 22, A: 24, Pts: 46
Grade: A
This guy is now a PRESENCE on the ice. Loving it. His shot is wicked and he's playing well defensively too. Just keeps growing in confidence.
Coleman:
GP: 41, G: 9, A: 12, Pts: 21
GP: 82, G: 18, A: 24, Pts: 42
Grade: B
About the usual, what we expect from this guy. Great place to grow Coronato, still gives it his all, heart and soul guy.
Backlund:
GP: 41, G: 8, A: 10, Pts: 18
GP: 82, G: 16, A: 20, Pts: 36
Grade: B-
Still playing fine but just a touch under what we expect from him I think?
Andersson:
GP: 41, G: 6, A: 12, Pts: 18
GP: 82, G: 12, A: 24, Pts: 36
Grade: B
He was a high A earlier but I'm not sure why he doesn't seem to be going after it as much with his rushes lately. Not many points at all in his last like 20+ games.
Bahl:
GP: 41, G: 1, A: 11, Pts: 12
GP: 82, G: 2, A: 22, Pts: 24
Grade: A-
Wasn't quite sure what to expect coming in but he's been a pleasant surprise and he's a young guy too so part of the future.
Pospisil:
GP: 41, G: 2, A: 10, Pts: 12
GP: 82, G: 4, A: 20, Pts: 24
Grade: B-
A bit of the sophomore slump here but he's still a nice presence on his line and doing well defensively. Gotta get his goal scoring and shooting up.
Sharangovich:
GP: 33, G: 6, A: 5, Pts: 11
GP: 74, G: 13, A: 11, Pts: 24
Grade: F
Injury excuse is gone. Brutal first half for Sharky. Good news is he is looking a lot better lately.
Kuzmenko:
GP: 31, G: 1, A: 9, Pts: 10
GP: 62, G: 2, A: 18, Pts: 20
Grade: F
Ouch. At least showing signs lately.
Lomberg:
GP: 38, G: 1, A: 3, Pts: 4
GP: 76, G: 2, A: 6, Pts: 8
Grade: B
Still a ball of fire and gets the crowd riled up and gets his team going. Be nice to have a bit more offense from him.
Miromanov:
GP: 29, G: 1, A: 5, Pts: 6
GP: 58, G: 2, A: 10, Pts: 12
Grade: C-
Didn't really click much with Weegar compared to Hanley.
Hanley:
GP: 15, G: 0, A: 2, Pts: 2
GP: 30, G: 0, A: 4, Pts: 4
Grade: B-
Seems like he's found his spot and is a pretty stabilizing force with Weegar.
Pelletier:
GP: 15, G: 1, A: 4, Pts: 5
GP: 30, G: 2, A: 8, Pts: 10
Grade: B-
Offensive stats not there, but is quite speedy and defensively reliable.
Bean:
GP: 27, G: 1, A: 3, Pts: 4
GP: 54, G: 2, A: 6, Pts: 8
Grade: B-
Don't notice him much which I guess is a good thing.
Rooney:
GP: 32, G: 3, A: 1, Pts: 4
GP: 64, G: 6, A: 2, Pts: 8
Grade: C+
Meh, I guess he's ok, no strong opinions one way or another.
Pachal:
GP: 41, G: 2, A: 1, Pts: 3
GP: 82, G: 4, A: 2, Pts: 6
Grade: B-
I love a physical defenseman and he doesn't seem to be too much of a liability so far.
Wolf:
Record: 14-6-2
GAA: 2.53, SV % = 0.916
Grade: A+
Above and beyond expectations. We can win 2-1 games with Wolf, just like we used to with Kipper.
Vladar:
Record: 6-8-5
GAA: 3.08, SV % = 0.888
Grade: C+
Yeah yeah he's getting the harder matchups and stuff. Had a good run at one point in the season but I have so much more confidence in Wolf.
Other Notables:
Kirkland: A, out of nowhere this guy came to dominate the shootouts and play really well 4th line.
Mantha: C, some good some bad.
Barrie: N/A, not enough games
Duehr: C-, hasn't done much
Huska: A-, pretty happy with him this year except for the offense
Conroy: A-, very happy with the direction this team is going with the youth
__________________
Last edited by FBI; 01-12-2025 at 12:28 AM.
Reason: doesn't like <b>
|
|
|
The Following 20 Users Say Thank You to FBI For This Useful Post:
|
CF84,
cral12,
FlamesAddiction,
Flames_F.T.W,
gvitaly,
indes,
Jetfire,
LokiMotion,
NegativeSpace,
nieuwy-89,
Party Elephant,
Puppet Guy,
robertsfanatic,
Savvy27,
Snuffleupagus,
Stillman16,
The Cobra,
Tkachukwagon,
traptor,
Winsor_Pilates
|
01-11-2025, 11:53 PM
|
#2
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
I don't disagree a lot with your assessment.
I think I'd be a little more generous with Pospisil. The offensive stats are down, but I think he is doing everything he is supposed to. There are a lot of times where the scoring chances and goals don't happen without him but it doesn't show up on the scoresheet. He also seems to have reeled it in a bit and is taking fewer dum dum penalties. A B- rating isn't harsh or anything, but I personally would put it up to a B+.
Backlund I might push down to a C+. I love the guy, but he seems to have taken a step back.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 01-11-2025 at 11:55 PM.
|
|
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 10:45 AM
|
#3
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I don't disagree a lot with your assessment.
I think I'd be a little more generous with Pospisil. The offensive stats are down, but I think he is doing everything he is supposed to. There are a lot of times where the scoring chances and goals don't happen without him but it doesn't show up on the scoresheet. He also seems to have reeled it in a bit and is taking fewer dum dum penalties. A B- rating isn't harsh or anything, but I personally would put it up to a B+.
Backlund I might push down to a C+. I love the guy, but he seems to have taken a step back.
|
Yeah, is Backlund pushing Coronato up or is Coronato pushing Backlund up
__________________
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 11:11 AM
|
#4
|
Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2024
Exp:  
|
Thank you for putting this together! Agree with pretty much all of it.
I do think that along with Sharangovich and Kuzmenko hopefully upping their games, there's still time for second half Backs to emerge per usual and push closer towards 45 points.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 11:26 AM
|
#5
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
|
Good ratings, but I think Rooney should be a D at best. He's been terrible.
__________________
"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Makarov For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 11:46 AM
|
#6
|
Franchise Player
|
Based on my expectations:
A+ : Wolf,
A: Zary, Coronato
A-: Huberdeau, Hanley, Kirkland
---
B+: Weegar, Pachal
B: Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Andersson, Bahl, Bean, Pelletier, Honzek
B-: Pospisil, Mantha, Lomberg
---
C+: Miromanov, Vladar
C: Duehr
C-: Sharangovich
---
D+: Rooney, Barrie
F: Kuzmenko
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to gvitaly For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 11:58 AM
|
#7
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
|
Agreed with most of it
Good job
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:09 PM
|
#8
|
Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
|
Yeah I have to agree with others about Rooney.
I thought he would be fine as a 4th line C but he seems to get his head caved in if his line mates aren't doing the bulk of the work. Also his PK is atrocious...out of position quite often.
F
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to transplant99 For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:13 PM
|
#9
|
damn onions
|
I completely forgot Mantha was even on the team. I’d lower that grade a bit. I’d also lower Huby to a B as well as Kadri to like a C.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:16 PM
|
#10
|
Franchise Player
|
A+
Wolf: This would be a bottom-5 team without Wolf. He masks so many problems. Dustin Wolf's rookie season results are the most significant development since Johnny Gaudreau's rookie season. Just like Johnny proving he could do it at the NHL level, Wolf doing the same is franchise changing.
He is 11-2-1 on home ice with a .936 save percentage. That is absolutely unreal as a rookie goalie. He is the only top tier skill on this entire team. He is single handedly keeping the Flames "mid".
A
Zary: 2nd season, 1st as centre. He's been stable at the position, and is showing offensive smarts. Unfortunate injury, but he's taken on more responsibility and while he's struggled at times, I've seen everything I'd have hoped for in Year 2.
Coronato: Great season. His shot is lethal, but also his ability to find open ice as well as chase the puck down in the neutral zone have stood out.
Weegar: Our best defenceman.
B:
Kadri: Producing at a good enough clip. The team seems to go as he goes. When he's not producing, the team is generally not producing.
Andersson: Excellent start to the season, but has cooled off a good deal. Leadership is on display. Please trade him.
Backlund: Steady as she goes. Typical first half for Backlund.
Pelletier: Would be a C, but I think he stepped up last night and that's not insignificant. His play has been trending in the right direction.
Lomberg: He delivers everything you could ask from his portfolio.
Pachal: He delivers everything you could ask from his portfolio.
C:
Vladar: Typical Vladar season where you think he's been better than what he actually has been - but he hasn't.
Pospisil: Notable step backwards for Pospisil. He's almost not a pest at this point.
Honzek: Not enough games played. He has looked better this season than what I thought he would.
Coleman: Significant step back from last season, and it really shows last year is a massively outlier. He's on pace for a fairly typical Coleman season. $4.9M for a solid 3rd line winger. Could be a B, but settles in at a C.
D:
Bahl: Big, and has shown strengths, but ultimately I'm left questioning if he's a Top-4 on a good team. I think he's a bottom pair guy. Bahl + Pachal would be a good 3rd pair
Sharangovich: He has shown almost nothing. He's playing at a 26 point pace.
Mantha: No risk signing, no reward player. 7 points in 13 games could have resulted in it being a decent signing. He was invisible at times, and would produce at times. I think that's just Mantha.
Huberdeau: 60 point pace, $10.5M will never be acceptable. Yes, this is the best he's looked but it's still nowhere near good enough. He is producing at 60% of what his salary dictates he should be. When you look at him and his salary vs. the league, there's just no downplaying this. If he can get this to a 70 point pace, he'll be a "C".
F:
Kuzmenko: Player of no consequence.
Hanley: Player of no consequence.
Kirkland: Player of no consequence.
Rooney: Player of no consequence.
Barrie: Player of no consequence.
Duehr: Player of no consequence.
Miromanov: Player of no consequence.
Bean: Player of no consequence.
Last edited by ComixZone; 01-12-2025 at 12:21 PM.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:21 PM
|
#11
|
Franchise Player
|
How can Bahl, playing on the top pairing and Miromanov who is a frequent scratch have the same rating?
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Jiri Hrdina For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:22 PM
|
#12
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
How can Bahl, playing on the top pairing and Miromanov who is a frequent scratch have the same rating?
|
Was shifting players around still, poor edit on my side. "F" players effectively just players on the team who provide nothing but their presence, which I'd say is where Miro and Bean both deserve to be. Placeholder players.
Ratings feel rough, but I just think most of the players on this team either wouldn't have a roster spot on an actual top team, or would be playing much further down the line-up. It's a bottom of the league team skill-wise with an all-world goalie.
Last edited by ComixZone; 01-12-2025 at 12:28 PM.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 12:51 PM
|
#13
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
|
Huska an A-? Lmao. Wolf is making him look competent. Huby would be on pace for 100 points with a system actually geared to the roster. People will come out in droves to make excuses this team lacks talent, they have plenty of skill, they are just neutured offensively. I would give Huby an A for changing his style to a mucking forward who shoots more, it's too bad his talent is being wasted by probably the worst head coach in hockey.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:01 PM
|
#14
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
|
Bahl-Pachal
Whoa black Betty
Bahl-Pachal
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by puckhog
Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid
|
Last edited by PaperBagger'14; 01-12-2025 at 01:06 PM.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:17 PM
|
#15
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Huska an A-? Lmao. Wolf is making him look competent. Huby would be on pace for 100 points with a system actually geared to the roster. People will come out in droves to make excuses this team lacks talent, they have plenty of skill, they are just neutured offensively. I would give Huby an A for changing his style to a mucking forward who shoots more, it's too bad his talent is being wasted by probably the worst head coach in hockey.
|
I knew you wouldn’t like that grade but I’m guessing you would be a major outlier on that opinion this year.
__________________
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to FBI For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:23 PM
|
#16
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
I knew you wouldn’t like that grade but I’m guessing you would be a major outlier on that opinion this year.
|
I sure I am and that's ok. Everyone has different opinions and they are all valid.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:27 PM
|
#17
|
#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Huska an A-? Lmao. Wolf is making him look competent. Huby would be on pace for 100 points with a system actually geared to the roster. People will come out in droves to make excuses this team lacks talent, they have plenty of skill, they are just neutured offensively. I would give Huby an A for changing his style to a mucking forward who shoots more, it's too bad his talent is being wasted by probably the worst head coach in hockey.
|
This train is always on time.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Flames Fan, Ph.D. For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:41 PM
|
#18
|
Scoring Winger
|
Huberdeau is an easy A for me. Dude has been unreal, huge props for him to completely change his game. He became a great net front guy, he’s shooting more and is driving the net. He’s easily an 8 mil per guy, don’t care that he’s overpaid by a couple million
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Naitix For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-12-2025, 01:45 PM
|
#19
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
What skill is Huska holding back? Who should he doing better ? I don’t love Huska but I do t hate him.
He’s coaching the team to be safe, but that’s because of the lack of skill as well.
This is likely the best we can hope from Huberdeau going forward he isn’t going to score 100 points.
|
|
|
01-12-2025, 02:05 PM
|
#20
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
This is likely the best we can hope from Huberdeau going forward he isn’t going to score 100 points.
|
On the Flames? Agreed. Put him in FLA and I bet he'd get there or be really close.
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:51 PM.
|
|