[Signing] Lindholm (7yrs, $7.75 mil AAV) and Zadorov (6x$5M) to Bruins

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The only one I think Conroy wanted to re-sign was Hanifin

Yet he made offers to others. Conroy had a maximum he was willing to pay and did not budge. When players did not sign, he traded them.

But Calgary could have had most of these players still playing for Calgary, if they accepted the offered deals.

The rebuild was more a necessity than a direct strategy.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Yet he made offers to others. Conroy had a maximum he was willing to pay and did not budge. When players did not sign, he traded them.

But Calgary could have had most of these players still playing for Calgary, if they accepted the offered deals.

The rebuild was more a necessity than a direct strategy.

Which he deserves credit for. He didn’t budge on term or the money. Thankfully all those guys wanted out because truly I don’t want any of them in Calgary with term or salary they wanted.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Yet he made offers to others. Conroy had a maximum he was willing to pay and did not budge. When players did not sign, he traded them.

But Calgary could have had most of these players still playing for Calgary, if they accepted the offered deals.

The rebuild was more a necessity than a direct strategy.

You can't even say the the rebuild wasn't a direct strategy. For all we know the Lindholm contract offer was a 8x1 contract. Conroy says he tabled an offer to the UFAs and he really doesn't want to trade them so make him a batter offer to force his hand.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Which he deserves credit for. He didn’t budge on term or the money. Thankfully all those guys wanted out because truly I don’t want any of them in Calgary with term or salary they wanted.

Absolutely, by all reports he offered what he thought they were worth and didn't budge.

Its entirely possible that ownership forced him to make offers and Conroy was pleased they did not accept.

Calgary is clearly better long term without them.

Short term, they may be a better team today, but so what? They still would not have been a contender and they would be even farther away from contending.

Things have worked out for the best.

If we miss on the our first round pick this year, it simply means our young players have likely played better than expected.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

Honestly, if it was a 1:1 (all things being equal and we are just talking pure stats and skillset, and assuming Lindholm had not soured with the Flames locker room), I'd still take Lindholm, just because Flames are so god awful on face-offs, have a real desperate need for even a decent performing 2 way centre. Their PK this year has been bad, and it's no coincidence it's partly because we have been so bad on face-offs, and are lacking another good two way forward to help take the burden off of guys like Backs and Coleman.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

I would take Lindholm in a heart beat. It's not really that close.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I would take Lindholm in a heart beat. It's not really that close.

Absolutely, 3 million less is huge!

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I would take Lindholm in a heart beat. It's not really that close.

Yep, agreed.

I’d do that trade right now.

The Huberdeau contract remains the worst contract in the league in my eyes.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Yet he made offers to others. Conroy had a maximum he was willing to pay and did not budge. When players did not sign, he traded them.

But Calgary could have had most of these players still playing for Calgary, if they accepted the offered deals.

The rebuild was more a necessity than a direct strategy.

Yeah, this wasn't some come to Jesus moment by management/ownership. It was a slow domino effect that was set course the summer Johnny and Tkachuk left and it became obvious that Huberdeau wasn't even close to the player they thought they were getting.

[Johnny Makarov]

He might be the most overrated player in CP history! Was always garbage in the playoffs when we needed him most.

I can't believe what we got for him and I can't believe the Bruins gave him that contract.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

LOL. still the overthetop hate for Zadarov... never change Scorp!

Remember when someone gave the Canucks an A for the Lindy trade? lol

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yep, agreed.

I’d do that trade right now.

The Huberdeau contract remains the worst contract in the league in my eyes.

I'm open to other opinions re: Huberdeau vs Lindholm but neither of those deals is even close to the Darnell Nurse contract.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

He might be the most overrated player in CP history! Was always garbage in the playoffs when we needed him most.

I can't believe what we got for him and I can't believe the Bruins gave him that contract.

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

LOL. still the overthetop hate for Zadarov... never change Scorp!

Remember when someone gave the Canucks an A for the Lindy trade? lol

Self-awareness is not strong here.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yep, agreed.

I’d do that trade right now.

The Huberdeau contract remains the worst contract in the league in my eyes.

I agree, that contract hasn't even hit its peak bad.
We are in the salad days of that Huberdeau contract.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Self-awareness is not strong here.

Hey i'm just a scrub on the internet. Not some guy who publishes real articles.

I mean other than Scorp and you who else puts out their real names in here Doug? hahhahaha

[Johnny Makarov]

and this needs to be posted every 3 months for the next 7 years... lol

To Calgary #Flames

Andrei Kuzmenko
Hunter Brzustewicz
Joni Jurmo
Matvei Gridin
Luke Misa
Eric Jamieson

To Vancouver #Canucks

11 goals 11 assists

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and this needs to be posted every 3 months for the next 7 years... lol

To Calgary #Flames

Andrei Kuzmenko
Hunter Brzustewicz
Joni Jurmo
Matvei Gridin
Luke Misa
Eric Jamieson

To Vancouver #Canucks

11 goals 11 assists

It’s only a year later and there are 3 names in there that could haunt them for a while…

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

It’s only a year later and there are 3 names in there that could haunt them for a while…

The only thing that would have made it better was if Lindholm re-signed in Vancouver and then resigned.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and this needs to be posted every 3 months for the next 7 years... lol

To Calgary #Flames

Andrei Kuzmenko
Hunter Brzustewicz
Joni Jurmo
Matvei Gridin
Luke Misa
Eric Jamieson

To Vancouver #Canucks

11 goals 11 assists

I don't like getting cocky too early when it comes to trades and drafts. Having said that, I'd like it if we traded even more of then with Van than what we already do!

[Enoch Root]

I would take it farther...

Lindholm (VAN)..: 6G, 6A, 12P, 26games, .462PPG
Kuzmenko (CGY): 15G,20A,35P, 56games, .625PPG (and counting)

Even though Kuzy has outperformed Lindholm, and can still return something in trade, let's throw that out, and just look at what's left:

VAN:
nothing

CGY:
Brzustewicz
Gridin
Misa
Jurmo
Jamieson

pretty close, but I think CGY has the edge