Boxing: Tyson vs Paul

[Coach]

It looked like at times if Tyson just took one more step towards Paul he would have had him in a corner and could have held him stationary for some shots, but he would stop. Which seemed more like he was afraid his knee would give out or something vs being fatigued.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I dunno... Doink the Clown (Matt Osborne) is dead so Paul might be able to beat him.

So this made me Google if Dink the Clown was still alive.
He is and his real name is actually Claude Giroux.

[Locke]

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I thought it was the raping.

The hypocrisy.

[Calgary]

Those Paul boys are the best marketers on the planet.

[trackercowe]

Does anyone find it rather unusual that Tyson is a hero of the masses in 2024? Obviously we can respect him as a fighter and an athlete, but how has he been idolized? The dude is still a rapist, women beating, loser. I know he served his time, but I don't understand the love. If he was any lesser of a fighter we would have never heard from him after getting out of jail.

[dino7c]

I feel sorry for kids the world is so lame now

We had actual Mike Tyson to watch in his prime. The fact that thay joke is some massive event is pretty sad.

[Cheese]

Shut er off after round 4. Tyson had no legs and no pop at all.
Felt dirty cheering for Tyson to beat Paul, I hated him in his prime and certainly for all of the disgusting things he is well known for. Glad I didn't pay for this farce.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Does anyone find it rather unusual that Tyson is a hero of the masses in 2024? Obviously we can respect him as a fighter and an athlete, but how has he been idolized? The dude is still a rapist, women beating, loser. I know he served his time, but I don't understand the love. If he was any lesser of a fighter we would have never heard from him after getting out of jail.

Very simple. If you look beyond his 80's and 90's craziness as you described above, and look beyond those headlines, you'll see he was raised an animal from an early age. So there's an explanation for his terrible behavior in the first half of his life. But if you look at the person he has tried to become in the past 15 years, you'll see he's a person who realized the mistakes he's made and is actively working to end his pride and ego. You can tell it's an ongoing battle but he's also actively trying to change who he once was. I think it's commendable. He's more mindful of many people around who see themselves as good people.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Man....thats a couple hours i want back.

Jake Paul is NOT a boxer....he is a side show.

Tyson is even wors.............. but its my own fault for believing this would be different.

The disservice this did to a real sport is yet to be seen, but IMO it will be substantial.

If people actually had to pay cash money to watch that fight I could see this argument, maybe. But "boxing is dead" has been a thing for a while now and yet there are probably going to be 50 million+ people around the world who watched last night. I'd like to think we were all smart enough to put the emotion of hating Paul aside and realised a 58 year old beating a 27 year old was probably never happening, at least not in a full match. Even if you think Paul is a fraud of a boxer who only fights tomato cans he's still an active boxer who trains and fights regularly. Mike didn't even have a warm up fight for this, for obvious reasons, but purely from a stamina perspective this was as big a mismatch as I can remember.

But that's why people like boxing, and combat sports in general: All it takes is that one shot. We all tuned in to see if Mike could just land that one flush shot on the chin or on the temple, maybe the liver. It was a horrible fight, but that was always the most likely outcome. The good thing is we got two other really quality fights. I could see a fair few people wanting to tune in to the third match between those ladies, that was pure action at its finest.

The craziest part to me was people didn't actually seem to realise that this was a titanic mismatch and let their emotions of hating Paul drive them, to the point that by fight day Paul's odds somehow where only -170. Free money if there ever was some, should have never been better than -1000.

[Slava]

^thats just hindsight bias though. Like of course, once the fights on you can see all along that Tyson didn’t have a chance. On the other hand, if Tyson rocks him early and wins, the comments are “well, Tyson is old, but he’s a legit fighter so of course he was always going to beat an amateur.”

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Does anyone find it rather unusual that Tyson is a hero of the masses in 2024? Obviously we can respect him as a fighter and an athlete, but how has he been idolized? The dude is still a rapist, women beating, loser. I know he served his time, but I don't understand the love. If he was any lesser of a fighter we would have never heard from him after getting out of jail.

Watch the documentary - Mike Tyson: The Knockout. It would help explain why there is a lot of , if not sympathy and compassion, understanding of who Mike Tyson is and how he got there. I didn't like Tyson at all until I saw that Doc. Back in the day we used to go to the pay per views in hopes that someone would finally kick his ass. But now, things seem different.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Slava

^thats just hindsight bias though. Like of course, once the fights on you can see all along that Tyson didn’t have a chance. On the other hand, if Tyson rocks him early and wins, the comments are “well, Tyson is old, but he’s a legit fighter so of course he was always going to beat an amateur.”

Anyone who thought Tyson had a chance did so based on curated 30 second clips, and the belief that a 58 year old could look something close to the prime version of that guy. Any good social media manager can produce content that makes it look like Tyson could destroy Paul. Like I said the hype was enough to push the line down to make it seem like this was close to an even fight. I'm grateful for the free money I made. I said it previously, but if you watched a 58 year old Holyfield fight a 45 year old non-boxer and get destroyed, it shouldn't be even a slight surprise. The only "sports" 58 year olds can be playing at anything close to a top level is golf/darts/all the other "sports" that are really drunk activities.

And calling Paul an amateur is wrong. No doubt he fights scrubs, but he does so in sanctioned professional bouts and is active and training year round. Tyson basically got off his couch for this with zero true build up like a normal fighter who was inactive would do. Stamina was always going to be the reason Paul would win, and sure enough that's all it took was being more fit.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Coach

Well I had hope for the first 30 seconds when Paul looked legitimately scared, but Tyson's legs could last half the round.

Yeah exactly, you could visibly see Paul was on edge that round. That moment 1st round when Paul left himself vulnerable committing to a big blow, missed, then desperately spun around while leaping and trying to cover his body.

You could see the fear in his body language there; an "oh no oh no oh no..." moment, bracing to absorb a devastating Tyson counterpunch...which sadly Tyson didn't attempt. It was all downhill after that.

[Fuzz]

"I don't have the guts to stay in this sport anymore," said Tyson, who quit on his stool from exhaustion as the bell sounded for the seventh round.


"I don't want to disrespect the sport that I love. My heart is not into this anymore. I'm sorry for the fans who paid for this. I wish I could have done better, but it's time to move on with my life and be a father and take care of my children."

https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...-mcbride_x.htm


He could have saved himself some embarrassment by listening to Mike from 2005.

[Jason14h]

Im sure his pride will recover with the 20+ million her earned

This is like watching a band play in their 70s when their voices are gone and they can barely move on the stage .

This was one last payday for Mike, and one last chance to see a legend. And it was free if you had Netflix

Not sure why anyone would be “mad” after the fight that is was a scam/sham.

And we got 2 amazing fights for free as part of the event

[Strange Brew]

Paul basically carried Tyson along for the last 6 rounds. He must have some respect for him because he could have finished him.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Paul basically carried Tyson along for the last 6 rounds. He must have some respect for him because he could have finished him.

Presumably this was all planned anyway. He probably got a bonus for not taking advantage.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Presumably this was all planned anyway. He probably got a bonus for not taking advantage.

Doubt it. Once the fight was on, Paul did nothing for his image or future business by carrying Tyson for 8 rounds.

Who is paying him this “bonus”?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Yeah it'd be odd for the breadwinner of this fight to get paid extra for any reason. You are spot on though Strange Brew, Paul carried him the final six rounds, much like Floyd carried Conor in their fight, but at least Floyd was willing to take some chances and made it a more interesting fight than this was. Although I don't even know if Tyson could have hurt Paul even if Paul opened himself up. Ultimately good for them for making that cash, and honestly good for them putting that women's fight on the card and hopefully getting a profile bump for the next fight those ladies will have, first two have been awesome fights.