10-09-2024, 09:59 AM
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#6401
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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
I guess what I find a bit confusing about the Oilers love-in is that basically every player had a career season last year. Do they think that's going to happen again?
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No, they think every player will be even better this year, because Connor is the greatest leader ever. Did you not see him yelling?
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10-09-2024, 10:01 AM
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#6402
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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This is the year they dig in.
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10-09-2024, 10:02 AM
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#6403
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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10-09-2024, 10:02 AM
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#6404
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
No, they think every player will be even better this year, because Connor is the greatest leader ever. Did you not see him yelling?
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His yelling cross-overs are elite.
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10-09-2024, 10:04 AM
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#6405
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Lifetime Suspension
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They already soured on Skinner and haven't even played a game yet lol.
Shrewd move by the greatest GM Jim Jackson. Same genius who signed Brown to that 3 year deal to make it easier to waive him, apparently he didn't see that he absolutely sucks.
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10-09-2024, 10:04 AM
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#6406
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Franchise Player
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There is a lot of hoping and praying that the players they are putting around McDavid will be good enough to tread water so McDavid can do his thing. They keep going on saying the Arvidsson's and Skinners are adding 1st line offence numbers playing 3rd line minutes. It doesn't add up.
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10-09-2024, 10:10 AM
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#6407
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Robbob
There is a lot of hoping and praying that the players they are putting around McDavid will be good enough to tread water so McDavid can do his thing. They keep going on saying the Arvidsson's and Skinners are adding 1st line offence numbers playing 3rd line minutes. It doesn't add up.
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More like 4th line minutes. Will they even get PP time? With the amount of PP's they get gifted and McDavid and Pissy never leaving the ice they will hardly get touches.
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10-09-2024, 10:26 AM
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#6408
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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I love that all the pundits are picking E=NG to win.
It will make the moment reality hits that much sweeter.
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10-09-2024, 10:35 AM
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#6409
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Franchise Player
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There has been a lot of discussion about their defense being worse than last year, but few are talking about the reduction in size and speed up front - especially while Kane is on LTIR. These are their wingers to start the season:
RNH - Hyman
Arvidsson - Skinner
Janmark - Perry
Podkolzin - Connor
That is old, slow, small, and soft as butter.
Last year, their forecheck and Ozone physicality was led by: Foegele, McLeod, Kane and Holloway. This year they are back to the team of 5 years ago - soft, and waiting for McDavid and Draisaitl to do something.
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10-09-2024, 10:40 AM
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#6410
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Jeff Skinner is the new Kyle Turris who was the new Tyler Ennis. Former second liners with generic white dude name who will be out of the league in a season or two.
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10-09-2024, 10:48 AM
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#6411
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Franchise Player
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Their new (old) guys digging in.
Last edited by D as in David; 10-09-2024 at 11:07 AM.
Reason: For greater clarity.
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10-09-2024, 10:53 AM
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#6412
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West of Calgary
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Yeah, I feel like I am missing something big time by not seeing, at all, how Edmonton can be such an overwhelming favorite for all these pundits.
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10-09-2024, 11:00 AM
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#6413
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
I guess what I find a bit confusing about the Oilers love-in is that basically every player had a career season last year. Do they think that's going to happen again?
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And freakishly healthy. They faced very little actual adversity.
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10-09-2024, 11:07 AM
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#6414
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
These are their wingers to start the season:
RNH - Hyman
Arvidsson - Skinner
Janmark - Perry
Podkolzin - Connor
That is old, slow, small, and soft as butter.
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Let's compare that to the Flames' wingers (with Sharangovich in for Honzek, which will be the case in a few weeks):
Sharangovich - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Mantha
Zary - Coleman
Lomberg - Klapka
The only spot where you would give the nod to the Oiler is Hyman vs Kuzmenko. Otherwise, it's even at worst, with several spots favouring the Flames.
Yes, I know that their Cs are better than ours. But we're comparing 'the Stanley Cup favourites' to a lottery team, for the entire group of wingers, and giving the nod to the lottery team.
Edit: and the Flames have Coronato, Honzek and Pelletier behind that. THe Oilers have... Savoie
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10-09-2024, 11:09 AM
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#6415
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog
Yeah, I feel like I am missing something big time by not seeing, at all, how Edmonton can be such an overwhelming favorite for all these pundits.
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McDavid and Draisaitl mask a lot of flaws. These new ones are the size of the grand canyon. The narrative by mid season will be that there is only so much they can do because the other pleebs aren't digging in enough.
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10-09-2024, 11:13 AM
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#6416
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
McDavid and Draisaitl mask a lot of flaws. These new ones are the size of the grand canyon. The narrative by mid season will be that there is only so much they can do because the other pleebs aren't digging in enough.
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And when they aren't steamrolling the league (like the pundits think they will be), the narrative will change to: they are saving it for the playoffs.
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10-09-2024, 11:15 AM
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#6417
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenarms
Jeff Skinner is the new Kyle Turris who was the new Tyler Ennis. Former second liners with generic white dude name who will be out of the league in a season or two.
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Was it Turris that the GM called out for not scoring enough and that was the reason the missed the play offs one season?
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10-09-2024, 11:16 AM
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#6418
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Was it Turris that the GM called out for not scoring enough and that was the reason the missed the play offs one season?
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No that was 4th liner Tobias Rieder
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10-09-2024, 11:16 AM
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#6419
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
McDavid and Draisaitl mask a lot of flaws. These new ones are the size of the grand canyon. The narrative by mid season will be that there is only so much they can do because the other pleebs aren't digging in enough.
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I can absolutely see it happening where the rest of the tam quits on Mavi, because they are tired of being blamed for Mavi's own failures.
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10-09-2024, 11:22 AM
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#6420
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
I can absolutely see it happening where the rest of the tam quits on Mavi, because they are tired of being blamed for Mavi's own failures.
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Especially when the majority of the players are vets over 30. I can totally see them having a shorter runway with the antics. Hell Skinner is probably already tuning people out as he is collecting pay cheques from the Sabres until 2030.
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