Edmonton is No Good XI: Mud, Sweatpants and Tiers

[Calgary4LIfe]

It is some god-damn 3-D chess being played by the Oilers to sign a crappy player and give him a contract that is too rich so that they can freely send him up and down as needed.


I think it is much more likely that someone in professional scouting - once again - screwed up.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

You guys realize this was pretty much the plan with him right and the three year deal helps you be able to waive him and bring him up?

[indes]

Ah yes the ol' "We're so deep that we need a 775k ahl defenseman with a 3 year contract on the books so no one claims them!" routine. Signature of a top tier organization.

[Wastedyouth]

Derpth!

[Robbob]

I kind of get it. They have next to nothing coming up the pipe, so they need some sort of assurance that they have a body. It does show how piss poor they have been in drafting and developing that this is the course they need to go. In Penticton they only had 2 players on the backend that they drafted. One was a 2nd from last year and other was a 7th from '21. You would think they would be prioritizing that for their organization, but it seems most of the D picks are flyers from the 6th and 7th rounds.

[TheIronMaiden]

Edmonton is no Good!

[Tbull8]

Its incredible to realize that the bonuses they owe to Brown played a massive part in putting them in a cap bind, resulting in the loss of Broberg and Holloway

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Edmonton is no Good!

You can sure say that again!

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

You can sure say that again!

Edmonton is No Good.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

It is some god-damn 3-D chess being played by the Oilers to sign a crappy player and give him a contract that is too rich so that they can freely send him up and down as needed.


I think it is much more likely that someone in professional scouting - once again - screwed up.

The similar reasoning that led to the signing of Jack Campbell by the Oilers is now clear to me.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Except once you bury him he doesn’t cost you anything on your cap because you signed him for a million, or very little, just your owners cash. So you have a guy you think you can move up and down pretty easily because the extra years make it harder for another GM to claim.

I should put out a disclaimer here, I don’t think he’s good, and likely a one year deal might have accomplished the same thing but what I understand of the extra years is to allow this movement up and down easier. I freely admit it’s a debatable point.

You just answered your own question. Any team that wanted him could make the claim for the same reason - it costs nothing to have him in the minors.

Pretending this was a smart decision and clever asset management is an absolutely perfect example of what several people here meant when they said the Oilers and Oiler Nation love smelling their own farts. Oblivious, and completely self-absorbed.

"Sure, we signed a useless player, but we should have no trouble sending him to the minors, so -winning!"

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I kind of get it. They have next to nothing coming up the pipe, so they need some sort of assurance that they have a body. It does show how piss poor they have been in drafting and developing that this is the course they need to go. In Penticton they only had 2 players on the backend that they drafted. One was a 2nd from last year and other was a 7th from '21. You would think they would be prioritizing that for their organization, but it seems most of the D picks are flyers from the 6th and 7th rounds.

Sure, they need depth (because they literally have none), but don't pretend that signing a player to a 3 year deal and then discovering that they are terrible was some stroke of genius.

[Wastedyouth]

Signing a terrible player (maybe one of the actual most terrible D men in the NHL last year, just behind Jarred Tinordi (double yikes!!)) to a three year deal.

Genius!

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Sure, they need depth (because they literally have none), but don't pretend that signing a player to a 3 year deal and then discovering that they are terrible was some stroke of genius.

Oh he is horrible, don't mean to say he was a good signing. You are right he is the type of player that could easily be signed to one year deals every year. I was just saying from the Oilers perspective, this is some certainty in the signing. For Brown it is a 3 year sentence to be in the organization.

At the end of the day, he probably signed there so he could use the Oilers doctors to get on LTIR at some time over the next three years.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Oh he is horrible, don't mean to say he was a good signing. You are right he is the type of player that could easily be signed to one year deals every year. I was just saying from the Oilers perspective, this is some certainty in the signing. For Brown it is a 3 year sentence to be in the organization.

At the end of the day, he probably signed there so he could use the Oilers doctors to get on LTIR at some time over the next three years.

Signing a horrible player for 3 years means that they have one less contract to deal with over that period. They only have to expend energy on the remaining 49 contracts now. That's being efficient!

[TheIronMaiden]

I can't help to love reading all of the predictions saying that the Oilers are going to win the cup. Pile that pressure on! Let it go to their heads!

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Signing a horrible player for 3 years means that they have one less contract to deal with over that period. They only have to expend energy on the remaining 49 contracts now. That's being efficient!

If anything that is a indication where they believe they sit in terms of derpth on the back end. Especially since going back to 2019 they have used the following picks on D:

2019 - 1st rounder (Broberg)
2020 - none
2021 - 3rd and 7th rounds
2022 - 6th round
2023 - 2nd
2024 - 6th and 7th.

For an organization that is struggling at that position, you would think they would make it a higher priority.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Robbob

If anything that is a indication where they believe they sit in terms of derpth on the back end. Especially since going back to 2019 they have used the following picks on D:

2019 - 1st rounder (Broberg)
2020 - none
2021 - 3rd and 7th rounds
2022 - 6th round
2023 - 2nd
2024 - 6th and 7th.

For an organization that is struggling at that position, you would think they would make it a higher priority.

If it was any kind of priority, they could trade RNH or Hyman for a top 4 defenseman. But nope, let's sign Arvidsson and Skinner!

(and Brown to a super-clever 3-yr deal so we can waive him)

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

They refuse to sacrifice offense for proper D like a toddler vehemently refuses to leave the Burger King play pen.

Thank McWeepy they didn't gain any more sense after Ekholm and doubled down on stacking old forwards instead.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I can't help to love reading all of the predictions saying that the Oilers are going to win the cup. Pile that pressure on! Let it go to their heads!

There's no way the seas part like last year.

Vegas wasn't great but they've always bullied the oilers at playoff hockey. One different result in game 82 and chances were good they didn't get out of round one. Instead the central bracket gets stacked and the best teams take each other out to clear a path for them.

VAN and DAL quitting after having series leads was puzzling to say the least, injuries aside.

Never seen a team less challenged to go the distance. Florida was the first to show a pulse and push back and they won pretty convincingly. Game 7 wasn't a contest.