[News] Blues offersheet Broberg (2 yrs, $4.580 mil AAV) and Holloway (2 yrs, $2.290 mil AAV)

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Hfboards now saying this was the plan all along and that the Oilers knew they'd be losing Broberg & Holloway

Tracking the stages of Oilers denial

[transplant99]

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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I thought offer sheets did not happen? Smart move by the Blues.

Kotksniemi was offer-sheeted by Carolina less than three years ago. It's rare, but they do happen.

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[1Nite]

Can thus be converted to the next eIsNG thread.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol best post on HF is that Holloway is dumb and left money on the table because he would have had a 90 point season with McDrai and secured a 9 million dollar deal.

That could have been true had McDrai allowed him to be on the ice with them over the long term.

I'm confident he'll go to St.Louis and learn to be a good player and not one who puts up points because he's playing with either of those two. In the long run it will benefit him. He's no dummy.

[PepsiFree]

Why would the Oilers execs above Holland have wanted to sign Holloway “very quickly” in January? He had 1 point in 15 games to that point and didn’t look like anything.

The least they could do is come up with a believable lie.

[sureLoss]

From Friedman's podcast:

Broberg was asking for $1.8 mil per and Holloway was asking for $1.2 mil per from the Oilers

Blues timed offer sheet so that Edmonton could not trade for a player with an arbitration case and open up a 2nd buyout window

The Oilers did try to sign Broberg and Holloway during the season. Friedman isn't sure about Holloway, but Broberg was not going to re-sign mid season.

He believes the Oilers became aware of Blues interest in Broberg and Holloway during trade talks for Buchenvich before the Blues extended Buchnevich

Expects Oilers will take time and look at all options

People feel that Holoway is the easier match because he has played with the star players and lower cap hit.

Friedman believes the hold up on Evander Kane's surgery was which doctor was going to preform the surgery and when they are available to do said surgery.
Kane will be gone longer than 1 or 2 months but no one is sure if the injury will keep him out until playoffs.
May have to LTIR Kane and deal with the cap when he comes back from injury.

This will bring new life to the Ceci rumors. Edmonton may be forced into a Ceci trade now

Stauffer has suggested Oilers may look at Calgary's d-men but Friedman has heard the Flames have told their guys they will be quiet this summer. But that may change if they make an offer the Flames can't refuse

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Stauffer has suggested Oilers may look at Calgary's d-men but Friedman has heard the Flames have told their guys they will be quiet this summer. But that may change if they make an offer the Flames can't refuse

What would that even be? Overpaying for some of the #6's they have collected? They have nothing the Flames would want for Andersson or Weegar

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why would the Oilers execs above Holland have wanted to sign Holloway “very quickly” in January? He had 1 point in 15 games to that point and didn’t look like anything.

The least they could do is come up with a believable lie.

He doesn't look like much now either. Certainly has a long way to go to be worth his draft status anyway.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

From Friedman's podcast:

Kane will be gone longer than 1 or 2 months but no one is sure if the injury will keep him out until playoffs.

LOL is there any debate he's going to be out until the playoffs? Oilers will do what other teams have done in that they will keep Kane on the LTIR until a roster spot opens up from another player being placed on LTIR or playoffs. Also convenient that they chose the only sports surgeon that isn't available for months. When's the last time that happened to a professional athlete? The entire thing has been carefully orchestrated. If the Oilers put as much effort into re-signing their RFA's they wouldn't be in such a pickle.

[lazypucker]

Ceci + 1st + 2nd for Joel Henley? I wouldn't be opposed to it, other than that provides an out for the Oilers....

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What would that even be? Overpaying for some of the #6's they have collected? They have nothing the Flames would want for Andersson or Weegar

I'd be pretty stoked to get out-year unprotected firsts from the oilers. In 2-3 years they could easily be a lottery team again.

[GFG#1]

If the Oilers match either of these offers, how can they go to Draisitle and expect him to take a discount when they just overpaid another player.

This has absolutely made my week, I can't see any good outcome for the Oilers in this situation.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

From Friedman's podcast:

Broberg was asking for $1.8 mil per and Holloway was asking for $1.2 mil per from the Oilers

Blues timed offer sheet so that Edmonton could not trade for a player with an arbitration case and open up a 2nd buyout window

The Oilers did try to sign Broberg and Holloway during the season. Friedman isn't sure about Holloway, but Broberg was not going to re-sign mid season.

He believes the Oilers became aware of Blues interest in Broberg and Holloway during trade talks for Buchenvich before the Blues extended Buchnevich

Expects Oilers will take time and look at all options

People feel that Holoway is the easier match because he has played with the star players and lower cap hit.

Friedman believes the hold up on Evander Kane's surgery was which doctor was going to preform the surgery and when they are available to do said surgery.
Kane will be gone longer than 1 or 2 months but no one is sure if the injury will keep him out until playoffs.
May have to LTIR Kane and deal with the cap when he comes back from injury.

This will bring new life to the Ceci rumors. Edmonton may be forced into a Ceci trade now

Stauffer has suggested Oilers may look at Calgary's d-men but Friedman has heard the Flames have told their guys they will be quiet this summer. But that may change if they make an offer the Flames can't refuse

Sorry, this sounds like total BS.

[Toonage]

lol right? How many pro athletes get put on waiting lists. You never hear that

[Sylvanfan]

The Blues were very strategic in using these. Offer sheets are generally ineffective unless another team comes in with a much higher offer as the original team often just matches. But now that the compensation is pretty light vs the dollars you can offer, the opportunity to use them a bit more does exist. You can shake guys loose for money and a draft pick.

This is pretty much a perfect storm where you have two recent high picks on a team against the cap who had a hard time getting into games. Plus a team with an okay roster and cap space and only one significant player up for a new deal in the next couple of years.

I could see a team like Minnesota being in position to try this next year once they clear the burden of Parise and Suter buyouts. But off the top of my head, I don't know if there will be a team with young highly drafted players like this on a team squeezed against the cap to target.

[Meers]

Here’s how I’d value the offers:

A two-year contract for Broberg: $4,580,917 per season.

A two-year contract for Holloway: $2,290,457 per season.

Not getting groped by the video coach: priceless.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by John Doe

Told by who? Isn’t that the gm’s decision? If the gm doesn’t decide who to sign and when, then who exactly is running the team?

Katz' kid. Everyone knows it's Katz' kid running it. You know the one, with the melon on a toothpick.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The Blues were very strategic in using these. Offer sheets are generally ineffective unless another team comes in with a much higher offer as the original team often just matches. But now that the compensation is pretty light vs the dollars you can offer, the opportunity to use them a bit more does exist. You can shake guys loose for money and a draft pick.

This is pretty much a perfect storm where you have two recent high picks on a team against the cap who had a hard time getting into games. Plus a team with an okay roster and cap space and only one significant player up for a new deal in the next couple of years.

I could see a team like Minnesota being in position to try this next year once they clear the burden of Parise and Suter buyouts. But off the top of my head, I don't know if there will be a team with young highly drafted players like this on a team squeezed against the cap to target.

Plus the 2 year term is safe for St. Louis but hard to match for the Oilers.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wait. The Oilers could have them for 3 million total, and wouldn't have as huge of cap issues.

So Stan could have done something, but did nothing and left this open for someone else to take care of? Sounds familiar.