Israel declares war on Hamas

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by blankall

Are you seriously stating that Israel bombed that soccer field?

No didn't say that at all but it's a possibility of course. Not like they haven't bombed thousands of other children in last few months.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Sorry, just the Jewish military for defending the Jewish population

Israeli military you mean. Lots of non jewish are in the Israeli army.

And yes they are terrorists no matter if they're Jewish, Muslims druze or whatever. Lots of Muslims in the Israeli army as well. They are all terrorists no matter what god they pray to.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Druze aren't muslim.

That tactic you mentioned is a well known israeli tactic. Like the time they threatened to bomb a hospital and then bombed that hospital and then denied it.

The Druze faith grew out of Isma'ilism, they are to Islam what the Jehovah's Witnesses are to Christianity

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by blankall

Are you seriously stating that Israel bombed that soccer field?

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Would not be shocked if this was israel doing the killing of these children playing soccer.

And that when a terrorist organization denies doing something you should believe them. Incredible.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The Druze faith grew out of Isma'ilism, they are to Islam what the Jehovah's Witnesses are to Christianity

No.
JW identify as Christians.
Druze do not identify as Muslims.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

And that when a terrorist organization denies doing something you should believe them. Incredible.

Hezbollah's main tactic has been to indiscriminately shoot rockets at Israeli civilians. Now a rocket, fired from Lebanon and exactly like the ones Hezbollah has been using, hits civilians in Israel...... and it's not Hezbollah.

I mean it might now be Hezbollah, but it if wasn't it's another Iranian armed militant group in Lebanon, but it was probably Hezbollah.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Israeli military you mean. Lots of non jewish are in the Israeli army.

And yes they are terrorists no matter if they're Jewish, Muslims druze or whatever. Lots of Muslims in the Israeli army as well. They are all terrorists no matter what god they pray to.

Jews Christians and Muslims prey to the same God.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bagor

No.
JW identify as Christians.
Druze do not identify as Muslims.

we don't know, first rule of Druze Club is no one talks about Druze Club
It is an intensely secret faith, and while the JW's identify as Christians their faith is not Trinitarian, they are neither Catholic Protestant Coptic or Eastern, they are closer to Nestorians

[blankall]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

we don't know, first rule of Druze Club is no one talks about Druze Club
It is an intensely secret faith, and while the JW's identify as Christians their faith is not Trinitarian, they are neither Catholic Protestant Coptic or Eastern, they are closer to Nestorians

I admit that I was the one who made the Druze are Muslims comment, and I may be totally off base. My understanding of the Druze was that their religion evolved from a branch of Islam. Upon further review I see that they do not identify as Muslim, and my knowledge required some updating. Certainly 10 years ago, all the info on the web referred to Druze as members of a form of Islam.

But yes, it's fairly difficult to find any information on what they actually believe as they are very secretive, and I personally would not have any authority ot state who is and isn't a Muslim.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Cool, Russia too. If Israel doesn't like being attacked on land that doesn't belong to them they could, you know, just leave it. Something Russia might consider too.

Curious what land you are accusing Israel of being on that they could leave that would result in less attacks.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Curious what land you are accusing Israel of being on that they could leave that would result in less attacks.

Is this a serious question? The illegal settlements would be a start. Did that really need to be said out loud? How about Gaza?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

Jews Christians and Muslims prey to the same God.

My favourite typo of the thread.

[BigThief]

Questioning Nage Waza is anti Semitic

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Israeli military you mean. Lots of non jewish are in the Israeli army.

And yes they are terrorists no matter if they're Jewish, Muslims druze or whatever. Lots of Muslims in the Israeli army as well. They are all terrorists no matter what god they pray to.

So, according to you:

1. Israeli army are terrorists
2. Terrorists never deny their terrorists acts
3. Israel army denies that it was their rocket (actually nobody except Hezbollah even claims that)


So, it wasn't Israeli army who did it. Checkmate.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Is this a serious question? The illegal settlements would be a start. Did that really need to be said out loud? How about Gaza?

Israel left Gaza 20 years ago and have been attacked fom there ever since.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by GGG

So now are you qualified to diagnos the difference bewtween a 50kg explosion vs an 11kg explosion?

US intelligence surely is:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...cks-on-lebanon


And since USA absolutely don't want this to escalate, if there was even a small chance that it was Israel misfired interceptor, USA would be screaming about it very loudly, to prevent escalations.

[Pointman]

Druzes are ethnic Arabs and speak Arabic. Whether they are Muslim or not is a complex question. Their religion is rooted in Islam and they do believe in Mohamed, among other prophets. But he is not their "main" prophet. From what I could gather most of them don't identify themselves as Muslim. Besides religion, they are pure Arabs though.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Druzes are ethnic Arabs and speak Arabic. Whether they are Muslim or not is a complex question. Their religion is rooted in Islam and they do believe in Mohamed, among other prophets. But he is not their "main" prophet. From ehat I could gather most of them don't identify themselves as Muslim.

It's not complex at all. They're not Muslims and themselves don't identify as Muslims.

You can't finish your sentence with most don't identify as Muslims but consider it a complex question.

Muslims also believe Jesus is a prophet does that mean they are Christians? Just because they believe muhammad was a prophet does not mean they are in any way of the Muslim faith.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Pointman

US intelligence surely is:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...cks-on-lebanon

Except nowhere in that article do they.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Pointman

US intelligence surely is:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...cks-on-lebanon

That article does not address the difference in explosions between an 11kg rocket and a 50kg rocket.

You made a statement that a failed interceptor doesn’t make such a blast on the ground and from this post it’s sounds like you have no ability to distinguish between the two.

While I agree this attack is likely Hazbolah or a faction allied with them you appear to have just made up that you can differentiate between an iron dome missle explosion and a hezbolah rocket explosion. Why would you do that rather than just wait for corroboration.

The correct response even if it was an iron dome missle is that iron dome missles wouldn’t have been launched without the initial firing of rockets. Casualties from defensive equipment is the fault of the aggressor.