Breaking: Biden will not seek re-election

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I haven't read a page of any of her books. I probably should.

It's popular to discredit them here.

Sorry, I'm really trying to follow what you're saying but I gotta ask...what is your point?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Sorry, I'm really trying to follow what you're saying but I gotta ask...what is your point?

I somehow got lumped in with Ayn Rand followers when I accused GioforPM of espousing an ad populum argument. I've never read (or, I guess watched) anything she's written (or acted in).

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I somehow got lumped in with Ayn Rand followers when I accused GioforPM of espousing an ad populum argument. I've never read (or, I guess watched) anything she's written (or acted in).

Thanks. I actually meant more generally in this thread. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be arguing that it's bad for democracy that Biden quit, despite his diminished capacity. Or is your point that the Democratic establishment is corrupt and has been actively hiding his impairment with the goal of holding onto power? Or something else? You seem to be upset about this but I can't quite tell why.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Thanks. I actually meant more generally in this thread. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be arguing that it's bad for democracy that Biden quit, despite his diminished capacity. Or is your point that the Democratic establishment is corrupt and has been actively hiding his impairment with the goal of holding onto power? Or something else? You seem to be upset about this but I can't quite tell why.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. I get bogged down in the back-and-forth sometimes.

I think it's regrettable that Biden got pushed out. After the debate and the Stephanopoulos interview, it was pretty clear that he wasn't up to the task. I think he's been a good president so far.

I think it's absolutely unfair of them to get Biden in to cut off Sanders and then kick him to the curb once he's served their purpose. There isn't any proof of this, but that's my perception. He spent his entire political life gearing up for this and finally achieved it. Sadly, a bit too late in life with respect to apparent mental acuity.

I don't agree with the DNC simply picking their anointed candidate and foisting that individual upon people. I don't think it is fair to people who are open minded and want their voices to be heard. There are some people who have claimed they would vote for an inanimate object against Donald Trump; I'm not one. I listen to both people. Or all, if there are more than two viable candidates. I'm not voting for someone to babysit my kids or be nice - it's the president. Chances are we will never meet.

A lot of things come into question - abortion, respect for federalism, taxes, trade, foreign policy, Supreme Court appointments, immigration, the environment, regulations. On and on, really. I think it's up to the people to declare the nominees. The Republicans had their chance and made their choice. Now that Biden is out, there should be a chance for Democrats to voice their opinion instead of a few hundred people in the establishment deciding it. We should stop the silly practice of not challenging frontrunners because if you can't stand up to someone in your own party who likely has a lot of agreement with you on policy, how are you planning to represent us when it comes to foreign countries - sometimes adversaries? It isn't difficult to set up a single day primary in all territories and states that isn't binding so these bigwigs know where the people stand.

I'm aware that I'll get derided for having that opinion but I wholeheartedly believe it.

[Red Slinger]

Okay, but people still have a choice to vote between Harris and Trump. It's not like they appointed the President. Harris was always on the ticket and with Biden's age, there was always a possibility that she would ascend to the big job. It's not like they picked a completely unknown candidate.

[KelVarnsen]

I haven't been following this thread.

And based off the 2 pages I read. I think I will go back to that.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Okay, but people still have a choice to vote between Harris and Trump. It's not like they appointed the President. Harris was always on the ticket and with Biden's age, there was always a possibility that she would ascend to the big job. It's not like they picked a completely unknown candidate.

The US population has never had a voice in this decision. She was selected by Biden, and now has been selected by the Democratic party through their endorsements.

I'm sure a huge part of that decision was her access to the Biden campaign war chest - nobody else would be able to use it. Logically this decision makes sense, as it gives her the best shot at defeating the GOP.

That said - this election will indeed be the first time the American people will actually have a choice in voting for her. Given that the election is 100 days away, that also makes sense. Spending as little as a week in a primary situation would be sacrificing the much more important time remaining to campaign against the GOP.

Thankfully for her, it seems like a pretty easy path to the White House at this point. You can make the argument she wouldn't have survived a Democratic Primary process (like 2020), so wouldn't have been the nominee, and therefore the President.

But here she's just running against a mental defective, so has a great shot at winning. And given the fundraising so far (over 100 million?) it's not like the populace is in rebellion.

[MoneyGuy]

“Mental defective”

I like that, I’ll be using it.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

Your credibility drops even more every time you use this term because you're either unaware that it's an intentional misuse of the party's name, promoted by the GOP, or you are aware and you choose to use it anyhow. Which is it?

lol, what?

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Intentional misuse?
Literally never posts in political threads, then chimes in to whine that 'omg you're not saying the name right, whine, cry sob.'



Actually, what is going on here is that I'm an operative for the GOP that is intentionally misusing the name of the Democratic Party by calling it the Democrat Party because is disparages people like Cube and makes them cry.

Legit learned today that

"Democrat Party is an epithet and pejorative for the Democratic Party of the United States, often used in a disparaging fashion by the party's opponents"

Don't think its ever even been posted on CP.

Imagine being so small minded to turn it into an issue.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by butterfly

What a silly thing to take issue with.

Everyone knows what that means. Dems, Democrats, Democratics, Reps, Republicans, Repubs, GOP.

Does the NDP get mad when people call them New Democrats instead of New Democratics?

I'm not even kidding when I say I literally had no idea this was a thing.

Big frickin deal.

What a bloody and utter joke. Imagine coming to the point where you cry that people don't use the name of a political party correctly and tell them they're doing it intentionally and are losing credibility because of it.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. I get bogged down in the back-and-forth sometimes.

I think it's regrettable that Biden got pushed out. After the debate and the Stephanopoulos interview, it was pretty clear that he wasn't up to the task. I think he's been a good president so far.

I think it's absolutely unfair of them to get Biden in to cut off Sanders and then kick him to the curb once he's served their purpose. There isn't any proof of this, but that's my perception. He spent his entire political life gearing up for this and finally achieved it. Sadly, a bit too late in life with respect to apparent mental acuity.

I don't agree with the DNC simply picking their anointed candidate and foisting that individual upon people. I don't think it is fair to people who are open minded and want their voices to be heard. There are some people who have claimed they would vote for an inanimate object against Donald Trump; I'm not one. I listen to both people. Or all, if there are more than two viable candidates. I'm not voting for someone to babysit my kids or be nice - it's the president. Chances are we will never meet.

A lot of things come into question - abortion, respect for federalism, taxes, trade, foreign policy, Supreme Court appointments, immigration, the environment, regulations. On and on, really. I think it's up to the people to declare the nominees. The Republicans had their chance and made their choice. Now that Biden is out, there should be a chance for Democrats to voice their opinion instead of a few hundred people in the establishment deciding it. We should stop the silly practice of not challenging frontrunners because if you can't stand up to someone in your own party who likely has a lot of agreement with you on policy, how are you planning to represent us when it comes to foreign countries - sometimes adversaries? It isn't difficult to set up a single day primary in all territories and states that isn't binding so these bigwigs know where the people stand.

I'm aware that I'll get derided for having that opinion but I wholeheartedly believe it.

Up till now a few hundred people were saying that Biden was okay and how dare people question whether he is up for the task or not.

Now a few hundred people say Biden isn't okay and how dare you question the Harris being the OBVIOUS choice.

In other words a few hundred people have perfectly lined this up.

A week ago that, this week this.

Does it actually matter what people voted for in the primaries? I mean 4 years ago Harris ran such a terrible campaign that she dropped out of the primaries. Now she's the shoe in candidate that everyone thinks is perfect.

Likely why its important to actually vote for someone? But hey, they voted for when they voted for Biden! That is why she had such a great approval rating! Because when they rank her approval they're actually ranking Biden's approval! You learn something new everyday, and don't you dare call them the Democrat Party otherwise Cube is going to cry.

[ResAlien]

Every time I see another right wing poster crying about what should have been done by the democrats for the democrats I’m reminded of some great advice I received about playing pool:

Never listen to the ####### you’re playing against

It’s easy to see why they want to make it a thing. It’s not a thing. You’ll have something new to pretend you’re altruistic about in a couple weeks I’m sure of it just give it a minute

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by GGG

Yeah, specifically I will be following this one

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...c-ballot/2024/

Heh. We may have the two 'least favorable' presidential candidates in history. Lol

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Cause everyone knows Nancy Reagan can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, makes it more credible.

Careful cracking up now, or else:

Liberals everyone. Pure class. And by class I mean racist, misogynistic pieces of garbage.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Azure

I'm not even kidding when I say I literally had no idea this was a thing.:

Really? Because you do it a lot. I noticed it and it's been a thing forever.

If you're being honest, it speaks to the effectiveness of memes like this.

[Cube Inmate]

Impressive that I triggered that blue guy enough to warrant 3 responses.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Really? Because you do it a lot. I noticed it and it's been a thing forever.

If you're being honest, it speaks to the effectiveness of memes like this.

It must be hard for conservatives to be eventually proven wrong on every single issue.

Gay marriage, atheism, women's rights, civil rights... I'm always amazed they aren't tired of losing at this point.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I haven't been following this thread.

And based off the 2 pages I read. I think I will go back to that.

Best I can tell, the right wing posters are jockeying for the ultimate series of “pick me” posts because a Black woman might be President, while using a bunch of words they have literally zero idea the meaning of and getting upset whenever people tell them they sound stupid for not knowing what those words mean.

It’s basically just that over and over for the past week or so.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Best I can tell, the right wing posters are jockeying for the ultimate series of “pick me” posts because a Black woman might be President, while using a bunch of words they have literally zero idea the meaning of and getting upset whenever people tell them they sound stupid for not knowing what those words mean.

It’s basically just that over and over for the past week or so.

Well that's an ipso facto ad hominem lorum de facto bonafide faux pas ergo vis a vis concordantly if I ever heard one.

Do better.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Well that's an ipso facto ad hominem lorum de facto bonafide faux pas ergo vis a vis concordantly if I ever heard one.

Do better.