View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
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Basha, Andrew
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24 |
7.87% |
Battaglia, J
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1 |
0.33% |
Bell, Parker
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0% |
Boltmann, Jake
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0% |
Chechelev, D
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0% |
Ciona, Lucas
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0% |
Gridin, Matvei
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136 |
44.59% |
Grushnikov, A
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16 |
5.25% |
Hoskin, Trevor
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0% |
Hurtig, Axel
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0% |
Ignatjew, W
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1 |
0.33% |
Jamiesen, Eric
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0% |
Jurmo, Joni
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1 |
0.33% |
Kerins, Rory
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0% |
Klapka, Adam
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2 |
0.66% |
Koumontzis, D
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0% |
Kuznetsov, Yan
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0% |
Laing, Hunter
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0% |
Lipinski, Jaden
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0 |
0% |
Littler, Cade
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0% |
Mews, Henry
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6 |
1.97% |
Misa, Luke
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4 |
1.31% |
Morin, Etienne
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47 |
15.41% |
Morton, Sam
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3 |
0.98% |
Nikolayev, Ilya
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0% |
Okhotiuk, N
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0% |
Poirier, J
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12 |
3.93% |
Schwindt, Cole
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0% |
Sergeev, Arseni
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0% |
Solovyov, Ilya
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6 |
1.97% |
Stromgren, W
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42 |
13.77% |
Suniev, Aydar
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4 |
1.31% |
Yegorov, Yegor
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0% |
Zarubin, Kirill
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0% |
07-14-2024, 01:53 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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With Pelletier graduated now, along with Coronato, I'll be voting based on a mix of highest upside and likelihood of making the team in some capacity at least. Gridin or Stromgren for me, going with Stromgren.
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07-14-2024, 02:06 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Surprised Morin isn't getting more love.
He and Parekh are going to be D partners at the WJCs (my bold prediction), and it is going to be glorious!
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Morin is absolutely a great pick! I'm still picking Mews, but he would've been my next pick for the last couple of rounds. I have him ahead of Honzek, Brzustewicz, and Pelletier, but that's me.
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07-14-2024, 03:03 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Basha slipping outside the Top 10, as he looks likely to do, would be ridiculous. A month ago he was the guy who everyone wanted at pick 28.
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I think this is a testament to how much Conroy has improved our farm system in just one year.
We suddenly have a very nice crop of prospects. We just need to add a few more high end forwards in the next few drafts.
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07-14-2024, 03:07 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not sure how Pelletier beat out Gridin last round? Is there a fan that would trade Gridin before Pelletier? Gridin should win here
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Experience?
Pelletier is basically down to his last shot.
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07-14-2024, 03:20 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Experience?
Pelletier is basically down to his last shot.
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Shouldn't that diminish his value as a prospect? A guy who has had chances but hasn't completely delivered yet?
A guy like Gridin still has the potential to become what Pelletier already is and more. In fact, it would be disappointing if he doesn't.
I just hope that Pelletier can stay healthy and prove me wrong.
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07-14-2024, 04:04 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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If Basha was taken with the late 1st and Gridin with the 2nd rounder, which most would’ve expected, this vote would be different. I went with Gridin but the Basha argument is a good one.
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07-14-2024, 04:33 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin
If Basha was taken with the late 1st and Gridin with the 2nd rounder, which most would’ve expected, this vote would be different. I went with Gridin but the Basha argument is a good one.
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Yeah, my opinion is somewhat being impacted by the fact the it seems like the Flames ranked Gridin higher and they obviously have potential scouts. And nothing has happened since then to separate them.
Maybe they actually liked both about the same or even Basha more but had intel that someone was going to select Gridin before their 2nd round pick and that Basha wasn't likely to be picked before then. There were 12 teams selecting in range between where the Flames picked Gridin and Basha which seems like a lot of teams to have intel on, but maybe if they had intel on a few of them, it would have been a reasonably calculated risk.
You hear about teams having "intel" about who is on other team's list at the draft, but I don't if that actually happens.
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07-14-2024, 04:53 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.
People are starting to sleep on Morin here.
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Would love to have my mind changed on Morin. Right now I see him as a second rounder who regressed in his d+1. I don't put him in the same class as our recent first or second rounders.
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07-14-2024, 04:59 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I loved the Morin pick. But I agree, statistically speaking, any regression in the D+1 year tends to be very concerning. It greatly reduces the prospect's chances of developing into a top NHLer.
The only real Flames exception I can think of is Rasmus Andersson. He had a tiny amount of offensive regression in his D+1 year and still turned out great. Of course, it's because he got in shape and improved his defensive game.
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07-14-2024, 05:03 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Been (mentally) voting Mews since 3. Guy's a stud and has been exceptional everywhere. I like his upside out of everyone past Wolf and Parekh.
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07-14-2024, 05:31 PM
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#31
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not sure how Pelletier beat out Gridin last round? Is there a fan that would trade Gridin before Pelletier? Gridin should win here
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I voted for Pelletier. So, I’ll explain myself.
—Pelletier’s draft year production is better than Griden’s; and it is behind only Coronato’s and Basha’s amongst all forwards on this list; (the crazy thing is that Parekh actually beats all the forwards);
—Pelletier has improved every season in junior and in the AHL (until this last season); he has had over a point per game in the AHL, and both his first two seasons in the AHL were around a point per game;
—Pelletier showed very well in his first NHL season, his first 24 games; I felt he was unlucky not to score more; and
—Based on all the above, despite Pelletier’s last season being bad, I simply am not willing to give up on Pelletier yet. I think the injury after Trouba’s hit, derailed his season, and I expect him to show up and play well in the NHL. If he doesn’t, my vote will be different next year.
Last edited by Nelson; 07-14-2024 at 05:51 PM.
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07-14-2024, 06:11 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Basha slipping outside the Top 10, as he looks likely to do, would be ridiculous. A month ago he was the guy who everyone wanted at pick 28.
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Current vote (including mine) leans to guy Flames scouts selected before Basha (and I'm a big Basha backer). Per the vote right now, have to project Basha goes 10th, with Morin & Stromgren possibly ahead.
Andrew will be just fine - in this poll & for the Flames in the future.
(And I actually don't mind him being a bit of an underdog.)
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07-14-2024, 06:27 PM
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#33
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: The Wranglers game, heckling Kevin
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My adapted from Cali Panthers Fan (excluding players with 0 pro games, I think its impossible to predict guys pro careers based off junior and college) based primarily on my eye test of every Wranglers game last two years...
strike = already ranked
A level (High likelihood of NHL career, possibility of being a star player)
Wolf
A- Level (high likelihood of NHL career and slightly lower possibility of being a star player)
Coronato
Solovyov
Stromgren
B+ level (high likelihood of NHL career but low possibility of being a star player)
Pelletier
Klapka
Grushnikov
Poirier
B- level (possibility of NHL career but low possibility of being a star player)
Jurmo
Kuznetsov
Morton
C level (intriguing, but need to see more to pass judgement)
Ignatjew
Hurtig
Bell
Ciona
Lipinski
D level (I have given up on)
Schwindt
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07-14-2024, 06:35 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Mews is on Team Canada's radar, he's played at the U17s and U18's
Is there a chance we'll have three Flames D prospects at the U20's summer camp?
Parekh, Mews, Morin maybe?
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07-14-2024, 07:48 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by Nelson
I voted for Pelletier. So, I’ll explain myself.
—Pelletier’s draft year production is better than Griden’s; and it is behind only Coronato’s and Basha’s amongst all forwards on this list; (the crazy thing is that Parekh actually beats all the forwards);
—Pelletier has improved every season in junior and in the AHL (until this last season); he has had over a point per game in the AHL, and both his first two seasons in the AHL were around a point per game;
—Pelletier showed very well in his first NHL season, his first 24 games; I felt he was unlucky not to score more; and
—Based on all the above, despite Pelletier’s last season being bad, I simply am not willing to give up on Pelletier yet. I think the injury after Trouba’s hit, derailed his season, and I expect him to show up and play well in the NHL. If he doesn’t, my vote will be different next year.
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It is interesting how Pelletier's injury last year doesn't seem warranted as an excuse with a lot of posters, but everyone seems to be on board with injury being a reasonable excuse for Honzek.
I don't know, just something I have noticed.
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07-14-2024, 08:01 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
It is interesting how Pelletier's injury last year doesn't seem warranted as an excuse with a lot of posters, but everyone seems to be on board with injury being a reasonable excuse for Honzek.
I don't know, just something I have noticed.
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I think both of their value has been diminished by injury, but Hozek still has more runway. Pelletier at 23 really needs to have a healthy and productive year at the NHL level because he is running out of time.
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07-14-2024, 09:28 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Mews is on Team Canada's radar, he's played at the U17s and U18's
Is there a chance we'll have three Flames D prospects at the U20's summer camp?
Parekh, Mews, Morin maybe?
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I think Mews' chance is more likely next year.
Parekh is a lock unless he's injured. Morin has a good chance, if he gets off to a good start tot the season. Mews is a longshot for this year, but a good chance for next, IMO.
Hurtig has a chance for Sweden
Gridin and either Zagodin or Yegorov would have been likely for Russia
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07-14-2024, 09:34 PM
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#38
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think there is very much a chance Basha is considered for Canada, too
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07-15-2024, 01:18 AM
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#39
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I like Grushnikov.
I can see him potentially having a long career as a stay at home guy and value that
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“He knows what he is as a player. I think that’s what I like about him,” said Flames GM Craig Conroy during an interview on Sportsnet 960 The Fan. “He plays hard. He’s a great penalty-killer, a defensive defenceman, a good puck-mover, but he plays within himself. He seems to know what he is, and he does it really, really well. And to be a 20-year-old in the American League, he’s having a good year. I know the numbers aren’t going to pop, but we have guys like Jeremie Poirier and Hunter (Brzustewicz), offensive guys. This is a perfect complement to players like that.”
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He looked really good at the dev camp session I attended
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07-15-2024, 07:25 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I think there is very much a chance Basha is considered for Canada, too
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Yeah, I was going to add him to my post as well. Like Morin, he needs to get off to a good start and force his way on. There are so many wingers though, and HC likes to stick with the guys they know, which is why I didn't bother.
Would be awesome though!
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