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Old 07-06-2024, 12:20 AM   #1221
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Pellet grill = solid fuel smoker?



Pellet grill is definitely a solid fuel that's made of wood.

I dunno, my interpretation is that pellet grills are a no go. Happy to be wrong.
There seems to be some confusion on that, there was a discussion on this one Reddit today too. The consensus seems to be they're okay now since previously they were explicitly mentioned as disallowed until they changed the wording earlier this week. The argument seems to be that since they're electric and don't use the wood for fuel (even though it's still burning?), and it says "Gas, electric or propane stoves, smokers and barbeques" are okay, people seem to be going ahead.

Personally I'd probably just give'r, but it does seem like a bit of a grey area to me
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Old 07-06-2024, 01:40 AM   #1222
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1809426931001291228

My guess is this will be an announcement that all restrictions are lifted.
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Old 07-06-2024, 08:16 AM   #1223
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Pellet grill is okay to use now, but the fireplace still a no go

https://www.calgary.ca/safety/fire-bans.html

No, they aren't. The very first sentence says:


"Due to a major water main break and Level 4 water restrictions in the City of Calgary the Calgary Fire Department (CFD) has issued a city wide fire restriction prohibiting the use of fire pits, recreational campfires, outdoor fireplaces and other open flame devices that burn solid fuels, such as wood or briquettes including solid fuel smokers and BBQs."


Later on, it confuses people by saying:


"The following are currently allowed:
  • Gas, electric or propane stoves, smokers and barbeques that are CSA approved or ULC certified for cooking purpose..."
But I assume it is meant to be that only stoves, smoker and barbeques that use gas, electric or propane are permitted. Which is really stupid, as I can't think of a reason why a gas or propane fire would be somehow safer than a pellet grill.


It's just another cherry on the top of the #### sundae that has been the City of Calgary's communications during this entire thing.


EDIT: I should add that I've been using my pellet grill throughout the fire ban. Stupid rules are stupid and shouldn't be followed.
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Old 07-06-2024, 08:25 AM   #1224
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Better be carful. You don’t NEED a smoker. Just like you don’t NEED a lawn or a garden or trees or shrubs or flowers.

But you can take an hour long shower in your house. Or clean your bike in your garage (but not outside).
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Old 07-06-2024, 08:28 AM   #1225
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I've been filling 4L jugs of water to water some of the new plants and trees I've planted lol.
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Old 07-06-2024, 08:37 AM   #1226
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EDIT: I should add that I've been using my pellet grill throughout the fire ban. Stupid rules are stupid and shouldn't be followed.
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Old 07-06-2024, 10:38 AM   #1227
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Moving to stage 3 restrictions. Can water outdoor stuff with handheld containers. No sprinklers or hoses. No window washing or car washing.


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https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/w...wr-stage-3.pdf

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Old 07-06-2024, 10:54 AM   #1228
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No, they aren't. The very first sentence says:


"Due to a major water main break and Level 4 water restrictions in the City of Calgary the Calgary Fire Department (CFD) has issued a city wide fire restriction prohibiting the use of fire pits, recreational campfires, outdoor fireplaces and other open flame devices that burn solid fuels, such as wood or briquettes including solid fuel smokers and BBQs."


Later on, it confuses people by saying:


"The following are currently allowed:
  • Gas, electric or propane stoves, smokers and barbeques that are CSA approved or ULC certified for cooking purpose..."
But I assume it is meant to be that only stoves, smoker and barbeques that use gas, electric or propane are permitted. Which is really stupid, as I can't think of a reason why a gas or propane fire would be somehow safer than a pellet grill.


It's just another cherry on the top of the #### sundae that has been the City of Calgary's communications during this entire thing.


EDIT: I should add that I've been using my pellet grill throughout the fire ban. Stupid rules are stupid and shouldn't be followed.
What they ste trying to ban is thinks that tip over and start a fire or would have spark/ash. It’s trying to ban the charcoal or Wood cooking devices and the pellet grill gets caught up in the ban.


I think it’s difficult to write bans without loop holes so better to over state and under enforce.
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Old 07-06-2024, 11:34 AM   #1229
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OOo, fire ban lifted, too. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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In response to the move to Stage 3 Outdoor Watering restrictions, The City has also announced the lifting of the fire ban that was implemented for safety reasons. We continue to urge Calgarians to use fire safe practices when handling outdoor open flames, including barbeques and backyard fire pits and when disposing of smoking materials.
https://newsroom.calgary.ca/update-j...e-water-usage/
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Old 07-06-2024, 11:56 AM   #1230
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Well now what are people supposed to be mad about?
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Old 07-06-2024, 12:01 PM   #1231
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Is this just buying time so they can refill all the distributed reservoirs before everyone simultaneously waters their lawn and washes their cars?
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So you can water your lawn/trees/shrubs if you use a hand held container… which is filled via a hose.
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So you can water your lawn/trees/shrubs if you use a hand held container… which is filled via a hose.
Yeah, doesn't that make sense? My patience to fill watering cans is a lot less than leaving the sprinkler going while I fetch another beer and forget about it for an hour.
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Yeah, doesn't that make sense? My patience to fill watering cans is a lot less than leaving the sprinkler going while I fetch another beer and forget about it for an hour.
We’ve hit peak stupidity….. right? It can’t get worse.
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We’ve hit peak stupidity….. right? It can’t get worse.
I feel like you’re not getting it.
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We’ve hit peak stupidity….. right? It can’t get worse.
Can you explain how it’s stupid when it accomplishes the goal of reducing water consumption
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Connect hose to container and let it overflow to water your plants.
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Also did they change the definition of Phase 3? Thought before watering with hose by hand was allowed?
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Can you explain how it’s stupid when it accomplishes the goal of reducing water consumption
It’s not reducing water usage. It’s just changing how you move it from your garden hose to the plants…. With an extra step.
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It’s not reducing water usage. It’s just changing how you move it from your garden hose to the plants…. With an extra step.
But on aggragate the amount of water usage at each increasing restriction stage drops. So clearly just because you can do something doesn’t mean everyone does it.

So why is it stupid if it accomplishes the desired results.
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