07-02-2024, 02:11 PM
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#7841
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Puckpedia says Washington's cap is a $102 for next season. What are they shedding to get under?
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07-02-2024, 02:12 PM
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#7842
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Puckpedia says Washington's cap is a $102 for next season. What are they shedding to get under?
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I would assume Backstrom isn’t going to play again, which takes care of nearly $10M
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07-02-2024, 02:13 PM
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#7843
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Sure, but you have to be cap-compliant before you put someone on LTIR. A better question would be, I thought you could only exceed the cap by 10 percent in the off-season.
Last edited by Ped; 07-02-2024 at 02:16 PM.
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07-02-2024, 02:14 PM
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#7844
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah this is confusing. They took the full cap hit of Mangiapane and PLD and made a signing in free agency.
They can send us Oshie along with their 1st, but they are 14 million over at the moment.
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07-02-2024, 02:18 PM
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#7845
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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If I'm Holloway I'm more pissed that they brought in two forwards in Arviddson and Skinner. And got rid of only one (Foegele). And re-signed Henrique, Janmark, Brown and Perry.
Unless they are telling me that Kane is as good as gone, I'm wondering where my lineup spot is.
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07-02-2024, 02:23 PM
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#7846
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Sure, but you have to be cap-compliant before you put someone on LTIR. A better question would be, I thought you could only exceed the cap by 10 percent in the off-season.
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17% over the cap at the moment.
I am looking over the roster, and to be cap complaint its hard to find what they can just toss away aside from Oshie and Wilson. Bizarre stuff.
They even added more cap with Chychrun.
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07-02-2024, 02:25 PM
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#7847
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I thought Oshie was retiring. There was some rumblings end of season.
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
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#7848
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I posted in the Capfriendly thread as well.
Backstrom + Oshie LTIR takes care of their cap issues.
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07-02-2024, 02:28 PM
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#7849
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
How do you know?
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Because it's a common occurrence. Why would anyone get pissed, its just business in trying to improve the team? These players aren't 12. The Oilers will figure it out, teams always do.
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07-02-2024, 02:29 PM
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#7850
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
I posted in the Capfriendly thread as well.
Backstrom + Oshie LTIR takes care of their cap issues.
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How do they become cap compliant before doing that?
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07-02-2024, 02:30 PM
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#7851
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
I posted in the Capfriendly thread as well.
Backstrom + Oshie LTIR takes care of their cap issues.
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Yes, but you have to be cap compliant to start the season, and I thought you could only exceed the cap by 10 percent in the off-season.
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07-02-2024, 02:33 PM
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#7852
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Originally Posted by Sec214
Floor is yours Royle, the people have spoken.
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Sorry, busy family matters today.
I've reached out for an update, the only update I got late last night was:
"The prices were........."
Which I think is a good thing, because Craig held true to his plan in not overpaying UFA's and giving term that would *cough, Treliving the team up, cough*
Flames made offers to other guys as well, but just wouldn't offer the 6-7 year term that was being handed out like candy yesterday.
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07-02-2024, 02:34 PM
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#7853
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Sure, but you have to be cap-compliant before you put someone on LTIR. A better question would be, I thought you could only exceed the cap by 10 percent in the off-season.
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Teams usually send some players down for a day to become cap compliant, then bring them back up and LTIR some players.
But the 10% rule in the summer is correct. Perhaps some players are technically not on the NHL roster yet, as they can be sent down without waivers?
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07-02-2024, 02:35 PM
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#7854
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Yes, but you have to be cap compliant to start the season, and I thought you could only exceed the cap by 10 percent in the off-season.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
How do they become cap compliant before doing that?
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Incorrect.
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Originally Posted by PuckPedia
If a team cannot be cap compliant on opening day without using LTIR, the LTIR Pool is the amount the team exceeds the Cap. For example, if a team is $3M over the Cap and places a player on LTIR with a $4M Cap Hit for the opening roster submission, the LTIR Pool is the $3M that the team exceeded the cap
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https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/LTIR
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07-02-2024, 02:35 PM
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#7855
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Yeah this is confusing. They took the full cap hit of Mangiapane and PLD and made a signing in free agency.
They can send us Oshie along with their 1st, but they are 14 million over at the moment.
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Is that with or without Backstrom's $9.2 million going on LTIR to start the season?
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07-02-2024, 02:35 PM
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#7856
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Getting Laine would be so bittersweet.
I would love to see him turn it around and be a star in Flames silks, but I want the Flames to tank for the next 2-3 years and get some elite talent.
Would an effective Laine be enough to pull us back into the mushy middle??
Or trade Kuzmenko and a second for him with the hopes to trade him in 1.5 years for a haul??
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So you are trading the better player and a second for a lazy Laine? Let Kuzy build his value back up and flip him instead.
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07-02-2024, 02:49 PM
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#7858
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Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
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I knew the league had tweaked the LTIR rules for opening-day rosters, but wasn't clear on the details. Thanks.
If I'm not mistaken, this was done specifically to address cases like Backstrom and Carey Price, so teams don't have to paper a bunch of other players down to the AHL because of a guy who is never playing again.
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07-02-2024, 02:52 PM
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#7859
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Teams go over the cap during the summer all the time, no one is pissed over it.
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If you have come off your ELC and the pie is all gone, why would you not be pissed. Yeah teams go over, but the bulk of the bulk of the issues the Oilers have is from cap buy outs and bonus overage. There is a reason a bunch of their signing are at the minimum.
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07-02-2024, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
If you have come off your ELC and the pie is all gone, why would you not be pissed. Yeah teams go over, but the bulk of the bulk of the issues the Oilers have is from cap buy outs and bonus overage. There is a reason a bunch of their signing are at the minimum.
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No no no, apparently only 12 year olds get pissed when a business that holds your rights shaves the piece of pie you were looking at down to nothing.
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