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Old 06-28-2024, 09:45 PM   #81
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His interview on the fan was terrific. His English is noteworthy. Really smart kid. His commitment is evident. His goal was to get drafted in the first round and his dream is to win a Stanley cup. Really great team first attitude. I am super intrigued by this pick. Michigan will be a great proving ground for him. He could really outpace a lot of people as we look back on the end of the college season. That dev camp is gonna be interesting again.
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Old 06-28-2024, 09:50 PM   #82
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Until he proves otherwise, that is where he is trending (no homer goggles on)
'upside'
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Old 06-28-2024, 09:53 PM   #83
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'upside'
If you just want to be right without acknowledging reality, okay. A small number of outlets theorized at the time that he might be a middle 6 player if the stars aligned.

Since then, his trajectory has shaped out more like Curtis Lazar.
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Old 06-28-2024, 09:56 PM   #84
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If you just want to be right without acknowledging reality, okay. A small number of outlets theorized at the time that he might be a middle 6 player if the stars aligned.

Since then, his trajectory looks more like Curtis Lazar.
The discussion was upside, not where he is currently trending. They are different things.

He has the tools to be better than that. Thus 'upside'.

It has nothing to do with me wanting to be right (which is nothing more than you not having a better argument to make)
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Old 06-28-2024, 09:57 PM   #85
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:01 PM   #86
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For the ones for hate the pick - Who would you have taken? And how many times did you watch that player?
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:04 PM   #87
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The discussion was upside, not where he is currently trending. They are different things.

He has the tools to be better than that. Thus 'upside'.

It has nothing to do with me wanting to be right (which is nothing more than you not having a better argument to make)
Depends on whether you look at the most statistically probable upside, or the pie in the sky upside that happens once in a blue moon. In any case, this is not relevant to the current discussion, but it does bear pointing out that a case can be made that the Flames have recently drafted for safe floor/low celiing. Which maybe they’ve done again.

That said, it’s a lot more understandable to pick a safe but replaceable player at 28 in a weaker draft than at 16 in a very strong draft. I’d wager neither becomes an NHL regular.

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Old 06-28-2024, 10:05 PM   #88
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Seriously?

If you think he has grinding upside I'd suggest you give your head a shake. This is top end talent or bust vibes.
He looks like a faster Kuzmenko in his highlights.

Absolute bomb of a shot, soft hands, can dish it.

This is not a grinder.
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:11 PM   #89
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It's a good pick. Gridin was someone I was thinking about for tomorrow. But if the Flames like him at 28, great.
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Apparently has a fast release. One of fastest in draft
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:25 PM   #91
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Depends on whether you look at the most statistically probable upside, or the pie in the sky upside that happens once in a blue moon. In any case, this is not relevant to the current discussion, but it does bear pointing out that a case can be made that the Flames have recently drafted for safe floor/low celiing. Which maybe they’ve done again.

That said, it’s a lot more understandable to pick a safe but replaceable player at 28 in a weaker draft than at 16 in a very strong draft. I’d wager neither becomes an NHL regular.
Are you talking about who they picked at 28 today? That’s certainly not a safe pick.
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:32 PM   #92
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During his interview with Steinberg, he said his agent told him that the Flames were going to select him after the Bruins made their pick. Does that mean the Flames had their sights set on Letourneau?
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:48 PM   #93
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Maybe it's the #92 but when I watch the highlights I see a lot of Kuznetsov, with a much better shot.
In his Steinberg interview he said he models himself like the on ice Kuznetsov; not the off ice Kuznetsov. Favourite player.

Also models himself after Datsyuk and Kucherov.

Describes himself as: "High IQ player, high creativity, good shot, good skating, good passing."
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Old 06-28-2024, 10:49 PM   #94
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He didn't get the "don't say 'rebuild'" memo yet (20 seconds in).

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I know this is far from the only scouting report our there on the guy, but here is one that projects him as a 3rd line player...

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His D+1 year wasn't a good year for the guy development wise.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674222793628733440
Strangely, earlier in the post you quoted, it says that Honzek has “the makings of a top 6 winger” before it says that unlocking his skills could make him a third line player.
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Strangely, earlier in the post you quoted, it says that Honzek has “the makings of a top 6 winger” before it says that unlocking his skills could make him a third line player.
And compares Honzek to Jamie Benn; another trending third line player.
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I feel like Monahan and Tkachuk were players that were criticized for not "driving" their lines and they turned into good-great NHL players
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I feel like Monahan and Tkachuk were players that were criticized for not "driving" their lines and they turned into good-great NHL players
they also both couldn't skate
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Old 06-28-2024, 11:33 PM   #99
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I am still high on Honzek. I think he translates really well into today's NHL - he is fast, with a great motor, and a phenom on the forecheck. He generates a lot of offence by himself. One down year does not a career make.
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Only one player had more points in the USHL than Gridin's 83 in their draft season in the last 10 years, and that player was Matt Coronato, with 85.

Per Chris Peters.
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