2024 NHL Draft Thread

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

That's the real nice thing about an Iginla, or even an Eiserman pick (personally I think Eiserman would be a nice grab. They are both almost eligible for next years draft with late birthdays. It actually makes Eiserman's totals that much more impressive in my mind, notwithstanding the eventual flight risk of drafting him, and the questionable attitude others have mentioned.

When its you bringing up Eiserman I get a little nervous, he is one of the guys I would truly be disappointed if the flames selected him. Not my kind of player.

[DropIt]

Best player available. Every time.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Best player available. Every time.

Sure. But who's list are we deciding it's BPA every time? If the Flames list isn't in line with Bobby Maks, then what?

Say the Flames do take Helenius at 9 and Dickinson is there? Is that BPA? Or are we gonna go off about how so and so was there and they took THAT guy?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure. But who's list are we deciding it's BPA every time? If the Flames list isn't in line with Bobby Maks, then what?

Say the Flames do take Helenius at 9 and Dickinson is there? Is that BPA? Or are we gonna go off about how so and so was there and they took THAT guy?

So silly...............of course we are.

And we will do so, based on many factors, multiple lists, personal preferences based on youtube highlight packages and such.............

[dammage79]

Only player I'm not keen on in the top 12-15 is Eiserman. That's it. I'll be pretty happy with any other. Even Iggy jr. Just the fan stuff is too much for me surrounding the kid.

That being said, I'm convinced junior won't be there at 9.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure. But who's list are we deciding it's BPA every time? If the Flames list isn't in line with Bobby Maks, then what?

Say the Flames do take Helenius at 9 and Dickinson is there? Is that BPA? Or are we gonna go off about how so and so was there and they took THAT guy?

I mean that comes down to the scouts. There's no way to know who will be the best but you trust your scouts and pick the top rated player.
Should position play a role in it? Sure if you need a tie breaker, but you don't pass up a top line W for a top 6 C because of the position he will play for you 4 years from now

[shutout]

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06...l-draft-picks/

Based on this chart

28 = 158.84
41 = 89.15
total = 247.99
Closest match is the Blackhawks at #18 (248.82).

Would it be worth it to make the trade?
Somebody at 18 that is a more sure fire pick?
Would the Hawks want two kicks at the can in their rebuild situation?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06...l-draft-picks/

Based on this chart

28 = 158.84
41 = 89.15
total = 247.99
Closest match is the Blackhawks at #18 (248.82).

Would it be worth it to make the trade?
Somebody at 18 that is a more sure fire pick?
Would the Hawks want two kicks at the can in their rebuild situation?

18 is great territory. If there's a Connelly or Hage or....Jiricek you make it happen. There's a lot of quality meat on the bone still at 18-24.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06...l-draft-picks/

Based on this chart

28 = 158.84
41 = 89.15
total = 247.99
Closest match is the Blackhawks at #18 (248.82).

Would it be worth it to make the trade?
Somebody at 18 that is a more sure fire pick?
Would the Hawks want two kicks at the can in their rebuild situation?

I like that too, but the only thing is that 41st overall is in a range that Bob thinks nets you just as good a player as the 28th overall pick. So that 41st is undervalued and the 28th is overvalued by his rankings.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by dammage79

It's absolutely batsh*t crazy to me that the Flames fanbase would lose their collective marbles if they picked someone other than Iginla at 9 if he made it there . I hope they don't pick him even more now because of this lunacy.

The Flames fanbase will lose its collective marbles regardless of who they pick at number 9.

We shouldn't this year, with all the quality in the top 12, but we will. It's one of the endearing parts of this board; irrational hot takes!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Sure, but do you take a significantly worse player because of position?

You're extremely unlikely to get a franchise player at #9.

I think you would have to go out of your way to take a significantly worse player at 9. There is a group of players closely bunched where the Flames pick.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I mean that comes down to the scouts. There's no way to know who will be the best but you trust your scouts and pick the top rated player.
Should position play a role in it? Sure if you need a tie breaker, but you don't pass up a top line W for a top 6 C because of the position he will play for you 4 years from now

I think position will indeed play a part in who they pick at 9 on draft day. The group they're picking from is pretty close. Unless it's a player they didn't think would get to them.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

When its you bringing up Eiserman I get a little nervous, he is one of the guys I would truly be disappointed if the flames selected him. Not my kind of player.

To ease your fears, I have never heard anything specific about targeting Eiserman or anything. Now Yakemchuk on the other hand... I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was our pick at 9 if they can't grab another pick in the 10-15 range. Thats the current Flames goal and the 28 pick is in play along with roster players to jump into that range of the queue.

[sureLoss]

I think trading up to the top 20 will be hard. McKenzie explains it best:

It seems there’s a divide of sorts between the top 20 on TSN’s list and the next group of as many 20-plus prospects. Famous last words, but it would be shocking if the first 20 on our list aren’t surefire first-rounders. Beyond that, though, the prospects ranked 21-32 would appear to be somewhat interchangeable with those ranked 33 to 50.

In particular, there’s very little separating the six players from No. 33 to No. 38 — Charlie Elick, Egor Surin, Nikita Artamonov, Dean Letourneau, Matvei Gridin and Jesse Pulkkinen — with those ranked from around No. 25 to 32.

And all but two prospects between 40 and 52 received at least one first-round vote.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think position will indeed play a part in who they pick at 9 on draft day. The group they're picking from is pretty close. Unless it's a player they didn't think would get to them.

If it comes into play as a tiebreaker, like I said have at it.

But if you're looking at Iginla ranked at 7, and Helenius at 10, dont pick the center just because he is one.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think trading up to the top 20 will be hard. McKenzie explains it best:

Kind of could go either way with how that's written: a team might feel comparable value in a number of players in the 21-50 range to the guys available to them at 15-20 -- and so they might be willing to trade out for two kicks at the can.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

To ease your fears, I have never heard anything specific about targeting Eiserman or anything. Now Yakemchuk on the other hand... I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was our pick at 9 if they can't grab another pick in the 10-15 range. Thats the current Flames goal and the 28 pick is in play along with roster players to jump into that range of the queue.

eases fears by naming the only other player I am also a little afraid of haha, lovely. I mean sure, at 10-15 range maybe. Just not at 9. I worry catton might struggle for a few years, I worry yakemchuk could be a bust... Eiserman I worry about everything other then scoring goals.



Im all in for Lindstrom, Iginla, Buium. assuming others are all gone. fingers crossed.

[stemit14]

Overall, I would be super excited to get any of these players at 9th overall:

Demidov
Levshunov
Lindstrom
Catton
Parekh
Buium
Iginla

I would be happy with any of these players at 9th overall:

Dickinson
Helenius
Yakemchuk
Silayev
Sennecke

Would probably be disappointed (at least initially) with any players outside of that.

[dammage79]

I wouldn't have Yakemchuk above Helenius or Senneke or anyone else really. I'd rather have Jiricek.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think trading up to the top 20 will be hard. McKenzie explains it best:

You maybe right. But every year several GMs go off the board from the so called consensus, and that is in a stable draft year. I think this year is going to be tough to predict. The Flames are is in a good spot as anyone to move up, and you have to think Conroy is going to try pretty hard.