2024 NHL Draft Thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

As for not taking Conroys word for it when he says something.....

Even a blind squirrel can look at the Flames depth chart and know that their biggest need is Center. I don't need Conroys word for it, I can see it with my own eyes. And for him to acknowledge that fact openly isn't some ruse to keep the competition in the dark about their plans. That's silly.

If the Flames have centers ranked above available D men, that's their list and I read ppl are gonna be pissed of they took a guy over someone they think is better. That's wild.

Teams ahead of CGY aren't just gonna draft a center to keep them out of CGYs hands. They got their own situations to deal with.

When it comes to general things like team needs, sure. In fact, I would wager that more than half of all teams would stress a center, especially in the top 10.

When it comes to specifics though, like if a given player projects to be a center or a winger, I would expect him to be a little elusive about his comments just due to the fact that centers are a hot commodity. Every GM is going to have their own opinion, but that doesn't mean that they don't take into consideration the opinion of other hockey professionals.

[Sofa GM]

Just seen a mock draft having Calgary pass on Dickinson and Catton for Iginla……. Geez I don’t know.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Just seen a mock draft having Calgary pass on Dickinson and Catton for Iginla……. Geez I don’t know.

I hear you, it's for this possible outcome I want us to get another top 12 pick

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[EDMONTONisNG]

Just watched a segment with jamie mclennan saying that there are rumblings Tij will go way earlier (4/5/6) - his "insider" is a "scout" for one of the teams drafting in the top 10. Apparently bloodlines are playing a big part - and chucky and brady are an example of that as of recent

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Just watched a segment with jamie mclennan saying that there are rumblings Tij will go way earlier (4/5/6) - his "insider" is a "scout" for one of the teams drafting in the top 10. Apparently bloodlines are playing a big part - and chucky and brady are an example of that as of recent

I could definitely see that.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

No, that’s not the trouble at all.

If there’s a model that needs to go all the way back to Bobby Orr to find a proper productive comparable, that is a special player.

I don't give a damn about the models one way or the other. I repeat: If Parekh were certain to be as good as one of the top five players of all time, he would be a no-brainer, slam-dunk #1 overall pick. He isn't.

Remember all the guys picked between Matthews and Tkachuk who can’t hold Matt’s jock strap?

Laine, Dubois, Puljujarvi, and Juolevi?

Scouts get it wrong all the time.

Players develop at different rates after their draft year, and some don't develop at all. That's not because the scouts got it wrong. It's because the scouts don't know the future, any more than the rest of us.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, looked at Mark Giordano and saw a future Norris Trophy winner when he was 17. That's not because every scout in the NHL was wrong about what kind of player he was at that age. It's because none of them had any way of knowing that he was going to have a unique development curve that would carry him up that high.

[sureLoss]

Man the last week before draft day is always nerve wracking. Feels like being a kid and waiting to open Christmas presents.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Man the last week before draft day is always nerve wracking. Feels like being a kid and waiting to open Christmas presents.

The business of hockey is as interesting to me as the games.

[dammage79]

Just watch the Flames nation draft primer.

I'm want Cayden Lindstroms injury concerns let him slide to the Flames at 9th, and then if he's not there, Catton is, and if they're skipping on Catton, they take Helenius. All 3 of them are my top 3 now heading into draft week. After that, and D man not named Yakemchuk. I see too much Neon Deon in him. And being one of the older draftees in this draft , really not sure about him. And with what they said about how he was used on the Hitmen is true where he was their only guy and he was greenlit to do whatever he wanted, that's an even bigger red flag for me.

What I did like at the end of their draft video was ask each guy who they'd take at 28. All 3 of them chose D men.

Which is where my head is at with the Flames. Take the best available C at 9, draft those D men at 28, 41 etc...

Any one of Hutson, Brunicke or Friej like they chose would be stellar.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If Parekh's projections become reality, you have a Quinn Hughes-type of player, maybe more- which ain't too shabby. There are people who post on CP who insist his defense isn't bad, so we'll put that to rest. In my past viewings of him, and even when I've watched him this season, he often looks like doing his own thing apart from the rest of the team, while hogging the puck and turning it over, etc. Let's not forget Ryan Murphy, who was drafted by Carolina 12th overall back in 2011- he was a 5'11" defenseman who put up 79 points in just 63 games, with 11 points in 7 playoff games, all in his draft year. Slightly different style, but he was the anointed one and ended up being a huge draft bust.

I will say this- Parekh was excellent in the Memorial Cup, and put personal accolades (such as goals and points) aside for the good of the team. He was impressive- now THAT Parekh would be just fine. I know that if the Flames draft him, it's because they've done their due diligence.

Keep in mind, I'm no pro scout....

Ryan Murphy was never the same after suffering multiple concussions in junior and NHL. Also something happened to his skating as he was a great skating junior player but looked almost slow in the NHL.

[Bingo]

Last week and some movement in updated lists.

Buium, Catton and Dickinson move up ... Parekh moves down.

Top 13 with Levels

 	Player	Position	Average
1	M Celebrini	C	1.00

2	Ivan Demidov	RW	2.64

3	A Levshunov	D	4.64

4	Zeev Buium	D	6.14

5	C Lindstrom	C	7.23
6	Berkly Catton	C	7.45
7	Sam Dickinson	D	7.59
8	Zayne Parekh	D	7.91

9	Anton Silayev	D	9.27
10	Tij Iginla	C	9.86
11	Konsta Helenius	C	10.41

12	Cole Eiserman	LW	11.09
13	C Yakemchuk	D	13.23

Flames at 9

Flames	7	Sam Dickinson
Flames	8	Zayne Parekh
Flames	9	Anton Silayev
Flames	10	Tij Iginla
Flames	11	Konsta Helenius

Flames at 28

Flames	26	Jett Luchanko
Flames	27	Terik Parascak
Flames	28	E.J. Emery
Flames	29	Teddy Stiga
Flames	30	Henry Mews

Flames at 41

Flames	39	Marek Vanacker
Flames	40	Maxim Masse
Flames	41	Dominik Badinka
Flames	42	Matvei Gridin
Flames	43	Julius Miettinen

Flames at 64

Flames	62	Adam Kleber
Flames	63	Will Skahan
Flames	64	Brodie Ziemer
Flames	65	Tarin Smith
Flames	66	Luca Marrelli

[devo22]

if we go D at 9, I'd absolutely love someone like Luchanko or Boisvert at 28.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Just watch the Flames nation draft primer.

I'm want Cayden Lindstroms injury concerns let him slide to the Flames at 9th, and then if he's not there, Catton is, and if they're skipping on Catton, they take Helenius. All 3 of them are my top 3 now heading into draft week. After that, and D man not named Yakemchuk. I see too much Neon Deon in him. And being one of the older draftees in this draft , really not sure about him. And with what they said about how he was used on the Hitmen is true where he was their only guy and he was greenlit to do whatever he wanted, that's an even bigger red flag for me.

What I did like at the end of their draft video was ask each guy who they'd take at 28. All 3 of them chose D men.

Which is where my head is at with the Flames. Take the best available C at 9, draft those D men at 28, 41 etc...

Any one of Hutson, Brunicke or Friej like they chose would be stellar.

Lindstrom is so damn enticing - 2 separate events but Honzek's injury woes last year make me a wee bit nervous 2 have 2 x 1st rnders in a row with injury questions at key times in development...

[simmer2]

This is how the CPHL GM's picked their 1st round for the 2024 draft.

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
3. Cayden Lindstrom
4. Levshunov
5. Iginla
6. Berkly Catton
7. Sam Dickinson
8. Zeev Buium
9. Zayne Parekh
10. Cole Eiserman
11. Beckett Sennecke
12. Anton Silayev
13. Konsta Helenius
14. Carter Yakmchuk
15. Jeff Luchanko
16. Michael Hage
17. Liam Greentree
18. Michael Nygard
19. Trevor Connelly
20. Igor Chernyshov
21. Stian Solberg
22. Egor Surin
23. Adam Jiricek
24. Emil Hemming
25. Sacha Boisvert
26. Terik Parascak
27. Nikita Artamonov
28. Dean Letourneau
29. Cole Huston
30. Andrew Basha
31. Cole Beaudoin
32. Sam O'Reilly

[prizefighterinferno]

If Iggy goes early it really frees up the team to get that blueliner or C without getting slammed and takes a lot of the pressure off - in all likelihood one of Catton, Parekh or Buium will still be there and any of those guys would be massive W's imo.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by simmer2

This is how the CPHL GM's picked their 1st round for the 2024 draft.

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
3. Cayden Lindstrom
4. Levshunov
5. Iginla
6. Berkly Catton
7. Sam Dickinson
8. Zeev Buium
9. Zayne Parekh
10. Cole Eiserman
11. Beckett Sennecke
12. Anton Silayev
13. Konsta Helenius
14. Carter Yakmchuk
15. Jeff Luchanko
16. Michael Hage
17. Liam Greentree
18. Michael Nygard
19. Trevor Connelly
20. Igor Chernyshov
21. Stian Solberg
22. Egor Surin
23. Adam Jiricek
24. Emil Hemming
25. Sacha Boisvert
26. Terik Parascak
27. Nikita Artamonov
28. Dean Letourneau
29. Cole Huston
30. Andrew Basha
31. Cole Beaudoin
32. Sam O'Reilly

That is pretty much worst case scenario for me, and it is still great to have a choice between Parekh, Silayev, Helenius, etc.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I don't give a damn about the models one way or the other. I repeat: If Parekh were certain to be as good as one of the top five players of all time, he would be a no-brainer, slam-dunk #1 overall pick. He isn't.



Players develop at different rates after their draft year, and some don't develop at all. That's not because the scouts got it wrong. It's because the scouts don't know the future, any more than the rest of us.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, looked at Mark Giordano and saw a future Norris Trophy winner when he was 17. That's not because every scout in the NHL was wrong about what kind of player he was at that age. It's because none of them had any way of knowing that he was going to have a unique development curve that would carry him up that high.

We’re not talking about an undrafted free agent - we’re talking about a presumptive top-10 selection who could easily be taken as high as three and nobody would be shocked.

The Philly scouts wanted Makar at #1 over Patrick - Ron Hextall didn’t listen, and he went 4th.

So as recently as 2017, scouts/GMs have been getting it WAY wrong.

It isn’t about whether or not Parekh is Orr.

He certainly looks to be at least a Quinn Hughes comparable.

Would you trade Matt Coronato to make sure you got Quinn Hughes? (Former 7th overall pick, after noted cEnTrEs Barrett Hayton and Jesperi Kotkaniemi)

Because I would.

And I hope Conroy would.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

That is pretty much worst case scenario for me, and it is still great to have a choice between Parekh, Silayev, Helenius, etc.

Ya if the worst case is getting Parekh, sign me up

[devo22]

also just goes to show how great getting #10 in the Markstrom deal would have been. I like the 25 (or 26) pick too, but given our options at 9 (whatever the board), double-dipping would have been awesome.

[InternationalVillager]

I'm good with Helenius. I think he's going to have Barkov level impact. Big swing for the fences.