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Old 06-14-2024, 10:58 AM   #3421
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There are a #### tonne of guys I would put before McDavid.

Sakic jumps to mind. Excellent at both ends of the ice.

Iginla in his prime was a far better overall player than McLotteryball IMO. Dude was the ultimate power forward who was great at both ends of the ice, and also had amazing skill.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:00 AM   #3422
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He stepped down, and my bet is he knew he wasn't ever going to get his message through to that core of players and so they both needed a fresh start, him with a new team and the players with a new coach.
Right I forgot about that detail
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:00 AM   #3423
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But EDM has outplayed FLA 2 of 3 games according to very smart hockey people.
Oilers are dominating the medium danger chances. IMO they did out play the Panthers game 1, but that is it.

Also, another year blaming their goalie. This year makes 0 sense too, Florida invested $10 mil in their goalie and at first were criticized on how bad that contract is. Bob is elite and I don't get how they can expect Skinner to out play this guy when he has Forsling and Ekblad shutting down star players in front of him. Most the Oilers great chances came from their depth guys.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:01 AM   #3424
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Iginla in his prime was a far better overall player than McLotteryball IMO. Dude was the ultimate power forward who was great at both ends of the ice, and also had amazing skill.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:05 AM   #3425
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Iginla in his prime was a far better overall player than McLotteryball IMO. Dude was the ultimate power forward who was great at both ends of the ice, and also had amazing skill.
Prime Datsyuk and Crosby are in a different league than McDavid, you cannot crossover your way to a Stanley Cup
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Prime Datsyuk and Crosby are in a different league than McDavid, you cannot crossover your way to a Stanley Cup
That's right, you have to mohawk your way there instead!
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:16 AM   #3427
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Would people have preferred Edmonton lose to the Canucks in 7 or make the SCF but get swept?
This is working out pretty good.

Canucks just showed they aren't a playoff built team and got dominated by the crappy Oilers to end the series.

and the Oilers are going to get swept in the Finals for the world to see.

I just want to see some riots!
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:16 AM   #3428
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I may never again visit BPs because of their annoying "This time let's do it differently" commercials. It is a national league, not an international one, and you obviously don't know how sports fandom works you irrational marketing dimwits.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:17 AM   #3429
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Don't worry Oilers faithful, they've shown they can beat this team....by losing to them every single time they've played them this year.
"Only the Oilers can beat the Oilers."
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This is working out pretty good.

Canucks just showed they aren't a playoff built team and got dominated by the crappy Oilers to end the series.

and the Oilers are going to get swept in the Finals for the world to see.

I just want to see some riots!
The Oilers are just good enough to beat teams that are bad or have depth but missing elite players. The Stars are a great team and match up well against tons of teams but other the Heiskanen, they don't have true elite players.

Then the Oilers match up against Florida, they don't have defense to stop a guy like Barkov, the Panthers have tons of depth to chip in, but McDavid and Leon have no answer for Forsling and Ekblad. Just like Makar and Toews, once they match up against a beast like these 2 pairings, they just get steam rolled. Florida also has a superstar goalie once if you get past their d.

Eichel and Vegas also beat the Oilers, but Eichel looked like a superstar playing the Oilers d.

Pettersen and Robertson just have not figured out the playoffs yet. LA is just a borderline playoff team.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:30 AM   #3431
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LOL. i was just browsing around capfriendly and forgot the Oilers are paying Campbell $5mil for the next 3 years! hahaha
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:31 AM   #3432
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LOL. i was just browsing around capfriendly and forgot the Oilers are paying Campbell $5mil for the next 3 years! hahaha
And a cap penalty next year for Brown's contract...$3.5 mil.

This cup run might cost them a ton to keep Bouchard, his contract might go up more than Leon's
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Iginla in his prime was a far better overall player than McLotteryball IMO. Dude was the ultimate power forward who was great at both ends of the ice, and also had amazing skill.
Maybe a little Iginla in Barkov’s game? I see some comps.
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Is it time for an oil change?
Is it ?
Nahhh....just keep on keeping on!!!
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:34 AM   #3435
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LOL. i was just browsing around capfriendly and forgot the Oilers are paying Campbell $5mil for the next 3 years! hahaha
You have to think Campbell is getting bought out this off season.

Buy out cap hit by year:

1. $1.1m
2. $2.3m
3. $2.6m
4. $1.5m
5. $1.5m
6. $1.5m

As opposed to paying him $5m per year to play in Bakersfield.
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I thought the Stars just looked gassed. Getting by the Avs and the Knights in longer series, for me those two teams were both good enough to make the finals with a bit of luck themselves and were real grinds. The oilers took a bit longer to take out the nucks but really had two very easy opponents in comparison.
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It’d be crazy but if Edmonton wanted to go all in they’d buyout Nurse. Two years of really good cap relief and then pain
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:40 AM   #3438
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You have to think Campbell is getting bought out this off season.

Buy out cap hit by year:

1. $1.1m
2. $2.3m
3. $2.6m
4. $1.5m
5. $1.5m
6. $1.5m

As opposed to paying him $5m per year to play in Bakersfield.
I think they will as well, but that cap hit in the years they need to sign Leon, Bouchard and Mcdavid is going to be costly.

Also, if Skinner is the problem do, they just go out and get at minimum a split time goalie to play with him? How much will that cost? $3 mil? Basically, eats up the cap savings and it's very likely they don't get anyone that good with $3 mil.

They also could explore trading an asset with Ceci to get rid of him, but he only makes $3.25 mil and they are very short on assets.

Campbell in the AHL saves them $1.2 mil as well.
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Prime Datsyuk and Crosby are in a different league than McDavid, you cannot crossover your way to a Stanley Cup
i actually lol'ed at the crossover comment. lol
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The Oilers are just good enough to beat teams that are bad or have depth but missing elite players. The Stars are a great team and match up well against tons of teams but other the Heiskanen, they don't have true elite players.

Then the Oilers match up against Florida, they don't have defense to stop a guy like Barkov, the Panthers have tons of depth to chip in, but McDavid and Leon have no answer for Forsling and Ekblad. Just like Makar and Toews, once they match up against a beast like these 2 pairings, they just get steam rolled. Florida also has a superstar goalie once if you get past their d.

Eichel and Vegas also beat the Oilers, but Eichel looked like a superstar playing the Oilers d.

Pettersen and Robertson just have not figured out the playoffs yet. LA is just a borderline playoff team.
The truth is the Oilers are a house of cards and have been all season. They are the true definition of pretender. Got to the Cup final playing a team that shouldn't even be in the playoffs round 1, a team playing a 3rd string goalie and without their top scorer in Round 2, and a team that eliminated the previous two Cup champs in 7 games in 2 hard fought series and were completely gassed. Understanding there is no easy games in the playoffs but show me a team that has had an easier path to the Cup final than the Oilers this year over the past 20 years, 30 years, or ever.

If Demko plays that series, there is zero chance that Oilers get past Vancouver plain and simple.

The Oilers are simply an inferior team to the Panthers in every aspect of the game. To ever label the Oilers as true contenders is just pumping tires and marketing efforts for McDavid. This is probably the best-case scenario however because they are now convinced they are close and will probably ice close to the same lineup next year, walking Draisaitl to free agency.
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