2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

That means they're drafting somewhere from 25-32. I don't disagree, this seems to be what they're signalling they'll do...and it's just stupid. It won't surprise me to see them make a series of short sighted "now" moves this Summer. If they continue to march down this path, they'll continue to be one of the most irrelevant franchises in the league.

What a waste of a season. Good luck selling expensive ass tickets in a new arena with no star players on your roster, and battling for 16th-20th overall.

Yeah I’m sure it’ll be dead in there.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They are not rebuilding, they will probably draft anywhere from 9 - 16 depending on what they do this offseason. They are not going to tank no matter how much the tank crowd wants that. They will try and get into the playoffs.

If the pick is 11-16 then it goes to the Habs. I can see a situation where they put a team on the ice that is not capable of finishing in the top 22 to avoid that but if Florida somehow falls off the Flames could be screwed giving away a top 10 pick to the Habs.

The utterly brutal Monahan trade has yet to deliver the hurt to the Flames

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

That means they're drafting somewhere from 25-32. I don't disagree, this seems to be what they're signalling they'll do...and it's just stupid. It won't surprise me to see them make a series of short sighted "now" moves this Summer. If they continue to march down this path, they'll continue to be one of the most irrelevant franchises in the league.

What a waste of a season. Good luck selling expensive ass tickets in a new arena with no star players on your roster, and battling for 16th-20th overall.

I think people need to relax nothing has happened. All he said was we wont go scorched earth like San Jose.

We are making no major free agent signings. We are about to trade away our #1 goalie.

His actions are clear. The team is going to be compete, but they will be taken to the cleaners most nights.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think people need to relax nothing has happened. All he said was we wont go scorched earth like San Jose.

We are making no major free agent signings. We are about to trade away our #1 goalie.

His actions are clear. The team is going to be compete, but they will be taken to the cleaners most nights.

I think you are correct but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some form of win now and win later move come to fruition not that different from the Hamilton trade in 2015. Get a proven player now but one who will sign a 6-8 year deal or come with team control and RFA status now or in the next 1-3 years.

Not that different than the Habs getting Dach or Newhook.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They are not rebuilding, they will probably draft anywhere from 9 - 16 depending on what they do this offseason. They are not going to tank no matter how much the tank crowd wants that. They will try and get into the playoffs.

Yeah, this is the general message they seem to be putting out there.
God I hope you're wrong though.

Many posters seem to think it's just misdirection. That the team is rebuilding but won't openly admit it for whatever reason.

The fact that they're still getting linked to being heavily involved for Necas worries me.

We will have to just wait and see what the moves look like.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by traptor

Yeah, this is the general message they seem to be putting out there.
God I hope you're wrong though.

Many posters seem to think it's just misdirection. That the team is rebuilding but won't openly admit it for whatever reason.

The fact that they're still getting linked to being heavily involved for Necas worries me.

We will have to just wait and see what the moves look like.

Who is spreading the message they are competing next season?

[saillias]

Posters who think they AREN'T rebuilding or going to be bad are the ones in denial IMO. The remaining talent keeping the wheels from falling off was jettisoned out at the deadline. Some of the best players from last year are over 30. This team is trending bottom 5 easily

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by saillias

Posters who think they AREN'T rebuilding or going to be bad are the ones in denial IMO. The remaining talent keeping the wheels from falling off was jettisoned out at the deadline.

I have yet to see anyone tell me who they are retooling around.

Vladar?
Huberdeau?
Kadri?
Backlund?

Management is looking at that and saying let's get these guys some players and we are right in the hunt?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by saillias

Posters who think they AREN'T rebuilding or going to be bad are the ones in denial IMO. The remaining talent keeping the wheels from falling off was jettisoned out at the deadline. Some of the best players from last year are over 30. This team is trending bottom 5 easily

If Markstrom is traded and they go with Wolf-Vladar, there is nothing stopping the team from bottoming out.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Who is spreading the message they are competing next season?

Just talking heads using the words “I think”. Basically, just historical regurgitation.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They are not rebuilding, they will probably draft anywhere from 9 - 16 depending on what they do this offseason. They are not going to tank no matter how much the tank crowd wants that. They will try and get into the playoffs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If Markstrom is traded and they go with Wolf-Vladar, there is nothing stopping the team from bottoming out.

I think people keep forgetting that.

Markstrom with this lineup went down the toilet.

Our backups are supposed to perform better next season with a marginally better team?

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Barring a miracle acquisition(s) or draft, it won't matter what they try to do. They'll be picking in the top ten again next year.

I know they are saying all the right things. But we may have as few as 1 top four d-men this season.

I can see Wolf being a .915 save percentage goalie with a 3.5+ GAA.

It's going to be that kind of year, so let's have fun with it.

This is exactly what I was going to post. It doesn't matter what the Flames are saying or intend. They were trying to make the playoffs last year and year before that. This year they will likely be without their starting goalie, Tanev, Hanafin, and Lindholm. Unless Huberdeau returns to flirting with the points leader in the league (and I'm not sure that is enough), this team as presently constructed is at least a bottom 10 team in the league. In my view, there are no free agents that are going to change this fate.

Most teams need to fall backwards into a full on rebuild. The Flames are already there from what I can see. It's going to be quite a few years before they are competitive in any meaningful fashion.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If Markstrom is traded and they go with Wolf-Vladar, there is nothing stopping the team from bottoming out.

I was just going to post this. If Markstrom's traded you have to consider the possibility that this team finishes between 28 & 32 when you look at the blue line talent and unproven goaltending situation. This team as it's currently constructed isn't built to win a lot of games with average or below average goaltending.

[Burning Beard]

Some posters need a personally addressed letter from the Flames declaring a rebuild in the exact style they requested or they will never be happy. And we will have to hear about it in every thread.

Personally I'll wait for the draft to play out and let the moves speak for themselves. So far nothing has screamed "compete for the cup this year" to me. It's been quite the opposite honestly. I'm not going to assign past mistakes to new management who hasn't made the same mistakes.

[Sec214]

we are never going to rebuild

For those that don't think the flames are going to rebuild. I question the sanity. They cant come out and say it when Murray's Mansion is being publicly funded. Once ground is broke, the tone will change.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

They are not rebuilding, they will probably draft anywhere from 9 - 16 depending on what they do this offseason. They are not going to tank no matter how much the tank crowd wants that. They will try and get into the playoffs.

But is 65-70 points a tank season? 69 points is an average bottom 3 finish since 2006. It does not guarantee you get 1st OV but it does position you for a very high pick.

You think the Flames will make enough moves to replace guys like Tanev and Hanifin? I doubt it, they are trading Markstrom.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sec214

we are never going to rebuild

For those that don't think the flames are going to rebuild. I question the sanity. They cant come out and say it when Murray's Mansion is being publicly funded. Once ground is broke, the tone will change.

Fair enough but if the message to the market is we want to be turning this thing around when the new building opens it will give the fans more comfort in the message. Not sure what shovels in the ground does to change that but I don’t doubt what you are saying.

Steinberg has even hinted to a new rink being the timeline to compete (not contend)

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Some posters need a personally addressed letter from the Flames declaring a rebuild in the exact style they requested or they will never be happy. And we will have to hear about it in every thread.

Personally I'll wait for the draft to play out and let the moves speak for themselves. So far nothing has screamed "compete for the cup this year" to me. It's been quite the opposite honestly. I'm not going to assign past mistakes to new management who hasn't made the same mistakes.

We are not rebuilding and will draft 9-16 OV but we already traded half our team and had a .381 point percent after the trades and now are trading our #1 goalie for a pick. But we will add a young player and that will offset all the players we lost, and we will fight for the playoffs. Not seeing it

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I have yet to see anyone tell me who they are retooling around.

Vladar?
Huberdeau?
Kadri?
Backlund?

Management is looking at that and saying let's get these guys some players and we are right in the hunt?

Iggy & Catton