2024 NHL Draft Thread

[serratedmuffin]

I think anyone who picks Eiserman is going to regret it. I think he's the definition of empty calories. He may score 30 in the NHL but he's not going to help teams win from what I've seen. If the Flames pick him, I would gladly cheer him on and hope I'm wrong.

[1qqaaz]

I'm a bit undecided on Eiserman. Pure-offense wingers are easily replaceable.
However, elite goal scorers are relatively rare and definitely add value - at least when they're scoring.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by serratedmuffin

I think anyone who picks Eiserman is going to regret it. I think he's the definition of empty calories. He may score 30 in the NHL but he's not going to help teams win from what I've seen. If the Flames pick him, I would gladly cheer him on and hope I'm wrong.

I think his value varies by team as he projects to a complementary goal scorer. I don't think he's a guy that teams picking in the top 15 want to pick as a franchise building block, but he would be a great add for established teams looking to solidify their scoring depth like Vegas, Colorado, Toronto, Carolina or a team like the Kings that are lacking an elite goal scorer as getting a goal scoring talent like that in the back half of the first round is a win regardless of his deficiencies.

[stemit14]

I think Eiserman would be a great pick for some teams and a bad pick for others. Teams that have already got play drivers as part of their core (Bedard or Celebrini for example) could likely put Eiserman in a great position to succeed. The flames don’t fit that mold yet so I would prefer if the flames went with someone else.

I could see San Jose taking Eiserman with Pittsburgh’s pick at 14th overall if he’s still available. Would be quite a draft coming out of it with Celebrini and Eiserman.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

That would be a massive misstep.

Most scouts don’t think so.

In an Athletic poll of execs and scouts, they asked them all who the best skater in the draft was. Dickinson got multiple votes (the only other prospects to get multiple votes were Lindstrom and Parekh). He was second in scoring among draft-eligible d-men (after Parekh), with 70 points in 68 games, and he’s outstanding defensively. And this in a 6’3” frame, and with lauded leadership qualities.

Since Utah, Seattle, and Ottawa will likely all take d-man, it’s probably a moot question anyway. Unlikely Dickinsen drops to Calgary.

[The Fonz]

We grabbed a 30+ goal scoring winger as a trade throw-in, cause his former coach/team didn't believe he was performing the finer details of the game at the NHL level.

I'd be pretty disappointed if we used a top-10 pick on a guy like Eiserman, when players of that ilk can be acquired via trade on the cheap (Kuzmenko, and soon to be Laine).

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

He was second in scoring among draft-eligible d-men (after Parekh), with 70 points in 68 games

Yakemchuk had 71.

I definitely like Dickinson too, I'm just saying... he wasn't second.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Yakemchuk had 71.

I definitely like Dickinson too, I'm just saying... he wasn't second.

Sorry, 2nd in the OHL.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Most scouts don’t think so.

In an Athletic poll of execs and scouts, they asked them all who the best skater in the draft was. Dickinson got multiple votes (the only other prospects to get multiple votes were Lindstrom and Parekh). He was second in scoring among draft-eligible d-men (after Parekh), with 70 points in 68 games, and he’s outstanding defensively. And this in a 6’3” frame, and with lauded leadership qualities.

Since Utah, Seattle, and Ottawa will likely all take d-man, it’s probably a moot question anyway. Unlikely Dickinsen drops to Calgary.

That's why Lindstrom is guaranteed to be gone before the Flames pick. Not often you get a teenager that large that can skate like he can and score close to a goal a game clip. He's also very strong finishing 2nd in left and right hand grip strength and 4th in bench press at the combine. Even if he doesn't end up as an elite scorer in the NHL the floor should be very high with his size, strength, and skating.

[dissentowner]

If used properly nobody is going to regret drafting Eiserman. That kids release will have him in the Richard race every year in his prime.

[shotinthebacklund]

If Iginla is on the board, Hes the clear choice. I see his potential as a high impact player at the NHL level greater then many of his peers in this range. The way he moves, works, and thinks the game appear to me to be very translatable across all levels.



That being said, there are a few names on the list you likely have to think very hard about if they are there



Lindstrom

Dickinson

Iginla


that would be a very difficult choice to make. I am also very intrigued about a guy like silayev. Hes a unicorn, but can he pull it all together, if he can he is a superstar in the waiting.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

If Iginla is on the board, Hes the clear choice. I see his potential as a high impact player at the NHL level greater then many of his peers in this range. The way he moves, works, and thinks the game appear to me to be very translatable across all levels.



That being said, there are a few names on the list you likely have to think very hard about if they are there



Lindstrom

Dickinson

Iginla


that would be a very difficult choice to make. I am also very intrigued about a guy like silayev. Hes a unicorn, but can he pull it all together, if he can he is a superstar in the waiting.

That’s why I really want Conroy to find a way to get that 10th overall pick from New Jersey. It would be so nice to get to pick 2 out of 3 in that scenario.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

If Iginla is on the board, Hes the clear choice. I see his potential as a high impact player at the NHL level greater then many of his peers in this range. The way he moves, works, and thinks the game appear to me to be very translatable across all levels.



That being said, there are a few names on the list you likely have to think very hard about if they are there



Lindstrom

Dickinson

Iginla


that would be a very difficult choice to make. I am also very intrigued about a guy like silayev. Hes a unicorn, but can he pull it all together, if he can he is a superstar in the waiting.

As much as I like Silayev and agree about his potential, I see him as the defender that has the highest potential to fall to Calgary or further. The Russian factor is an issue, and nobody has had eyes on the kid, and he's signed to a KHL team.

He also could go at third overall.

I wonder if Philadelphia is hoping he'll drop to them and that's why they're being cagey about Michkov to freak other teams out about talented Russians... But if Silayev falls to them at 12 and they pass on him, that'll kind of answer that question.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I'm a bit undecided on Eiserman. Pure-offense wingers are easily replaceable.
However, elite goal scorers are relatively rare and definitely add value - at least when they're scoring.

The thing that gives be pause with him, is that we heard a lot of the same things with Coranato in his draft.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

If Iginla is on the board, Hes the clear choice. I see his potential as a high impact player at the NHL level greater then many of his peers in this range. The way he moves, works, and thinks the game appear to me to be very translatable across all levels.



That being said, there are a few names on the list you likely have to think very hard about if they are there



Lindstrom

Dickinson

Iginla


that would be a very difficult choice to make. I am also very intrigued about a guy like silayev. Hes a unicorn, but can he pull it all together, if he can he is a superstar in the waiting.

It's not a clear choice. In your own post you postulated a scenario that the Flames might pick 3 other guys over Iginla.

I would be fine with Iginla, but I would pick Lindstrom and Dickinson over him, as well as Catton. Maybe the choice will be clearer when the Flames are up to pick, but I think it will be a difficult choice amongst 3 or 4, no matter how the first part of the draft goes.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

It's not a clear choice. In your own post you postulated a scenario that the Flames might pick 3 other guys over Iginla.

I would be fine with Iginla, but I would pick Lindstrom and Dickinson over him, as well as Catton. Maybe the choice will be clearer when the Flames are up to pick, but I think it will be a difficult choice amongst 3 or 4, no matter how the first part of the draft goes.

And I would take Buium or Parekh over all of these guys. It's the fun of the draft. To each their own of course.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

It's not a clear choice. In your own post you postulated a scenario that the Flames might pick 3 other guys over Iginla.

I would be fine with Iginla, but I would pick Lindstrom and Dickinson over him, as well as Catton. Maybe the choice will be clearer when the Flames are up to pick, but I think it will be a difficult choice amongst 3 or 4, no matter how the first part of the draft goes.

I should say, For me, the choice is clear. When weighing everything together, Iginla tips the scales for me.

Here is a very interesting scenario that could easily play out.

Iginla is on the board at 9, so is Dickinson, or one of the other Dmen of your choosing, ( or in this case the flames choosing ) Markstrom is still a Flame. Flames make the pick of Iginla at 9. We have a trade to announce...

Flames have to pick Iginla in this scenario at 9 in my opinion or you lose some leverage on NJD.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Robbob

The thing that gives be pause with him, is that we heard a lot of the same things with Coranato in his draft.

In terms of being a goal-scorer, yes. But Coronato was also praised for his defensive game and being relentless on the forecheck when he was drafted. Most profiles I have seen of Eiserman limit him to only goal scoring… to the point that every other facet of his game is considered average to below average.

[sureLoss]

Eiserman would be a great pick if you already have a core group of forwards with a franchise center to unlock his offensive potential.

But he wouldn't be someone you would want to build a team around IMO.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I should say, For me, the choice is clear. When weighing everything together, Iginla tips the scales for me.

Here is a very interesting scenario that could easily play out.

Iginla is on the board at 9, so is Dickinson, or one of the other Dmen of your choosing, ( or in this case the flames choosing ) Markstrom is still a Flame. Flames make the pick of Iginla at 9. We have a trade to announce...

Flames have to pick Iginla in this scenario at 9 in my opinion or you lose some leverage on NJD.

Iginla is in the conversation for sure, but so are players like Dickinson, Bium, Catton and Helenius IMO. It will really depend how the picks shake out from 2-6 in terms of what is left to choose from, but as long as the team doesn't go for one of the more defensive defencemen or Parekh I will be happy. It will also depend on whether or not the Flames have another pick early in the draft. If 28 has become 10, 12 or whatever that certainly give you more ammo.