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Stranger · 06-13-2007, 07:21 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19195624/?GT1=10056

It's amazing how old some animals really get. Sad to see it have to get netted.

NSFL · 06-13-2007, 07:51 AM

Wow. It's been around for 115 years, survived at least one hunt, and now it's gone. How do you say depressing reading at 8 in the morning.

Flashpoint · 06-13-2007, 08:46 AM

No kidding! Survived a brush with death and then died the same way later.

Nice work humankind.

BlackArcher101 · 06-13-2007, 10:43 AM

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Nice work humankind.

What, we aren't allowed to kill animals now? Does this one have a special pass since we failed 100 years ago?

Language · 06-13-2007, 01:57 PM

Read the story this morning too. It is quite amazing how old some animals can live too.

It says that there was a whale that presumably lived to 200 years old. If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading a few stories about a tortoise that was also at least 135 years old.

Have there been any biological tests to determine why some whales can possibly live for so long? A whale's life has quite a few less variables to it than a human's life with relation to what it eats and exercise, etc.

Berger_4_ · 06-13-2007, 04:12 PM

i'd think it have something to do with their size, especially their organs and heart. most of the really long living animals seem to be really big. maybe it has something to so with the fact that their hearts aren't beating anywhere near as hard as ours...

troutman · 06-13-2007, 04:53 PM

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i'd think it have something to do with their size, especially their organs and heart. most of the really long living animals seem to be really big. maybe it has something to so with the fact that their hearts aren't beating anywhere near as hard as ours...

Parrots can live a real long time too IIRC.

AC · 06-14-2007, 12:58 AM

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Parrots can live a real long time too IIRC.

Yep, some parrot species can live over 100 years.

Flashpoint · 06-14-2007, 07:32 AM

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What, we aren't allowed to kill animals now? Does this one have a special pass since we failed 100 years ago?

Lord knows we need to be hunting 100 year old whales, to fill our many whale related needs. We just took something that had been around since before Chris Chelios's draft year out off the planet perminantly.

You don't feel even slightly bad about that? It isn't like there are herds of the damn things.

We have made it quite clear we are "allowed" to do whatever we want with regards to animals. The question is "should we" be doing whatever we want?

BlackArcher101 · 06-14-2007, 08:32 AM

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Lord knows we need to be hunting 100 year old whales, to fill our many whale related needs. We just took something that had been around since before Chris Chelios's draft year out off the planet perminantly.

You don't feel even slightly bad about that? It isn't like there are herds of the damn things.

We have made it quite clear we are "allowed" to do whatever we want with regards to animals. The question is "should we" be doing whatever we want?

No, I don't feel bad one bit. It's called survival and it's what our ancestors' ancestors and I'm pretty sure their ancestors were doing. Are the laws of survival changing for humans so that we must consider feelings and emotions before killing something for good use?

the-rasta-masta · 06-14-2007, 10:05 AM

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Lord knows we need to be hunting 100 year old whales, to fill our many whale related needs. We just took something that had been around since before Chris Chelios's draft year out off the planet perminantly.

You don't feel even slightly bad about that? It isn't like there are herds of the damn things.

We have made it quite clear we are "allowed" to do whatever we want with regards to animals. The question is "should we" be doing whatever we want?

Alright, from now on, we will ask the whales how old they are before killing them. Respect your elders, I always say.

Flashpoint · 06-14-2007, 10:52 AM

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No, I don't feel bad one bit. It's called survival and it's what our ancestors' ancestors and I'm pretty sure their ancestors were doing. Are the laws of survival changing for humans so that we must consider feelings and emotions before killing something for good use?

So you're saying we need whales to survive?

Agamemnon · 06-14-2007, 11:12 AM

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Alright, from now on, we will ask the whales how old they are before killing them. Respect your elders, I always say.

Meh... it would probably easier to stop killing them entirely, or at least kill them at a sustainable rate. Right now we're cleaning the oceans free of large mammals, often regardless of age. I don't know how one could sit back and look at unsustainable whaling practises wiping out populations and say 'so what?'.

Haven't you ever seen Star Trek IV? Sheesh!

BlackArcher101 · 06-14-2007, 11:15 AM

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So you're saying we need whales to survive?

Yes... not you, nor me... but up north they do. This took place in Alaska. How about telling them they don't need them? They do have quotas up there... this isn't a kill a whale for sport thing.

Flashpoint · 06-14-2007, 01:26 PM

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Yes... not you, nor me... but up north they do. This took place in Alaska. How about telling them they don't need them? They do have quotas up there... this isn't a kill a whale for sport thing.

Fair enough. Still a shame IMO to take out such a long lived creature.