Time and Space

[DeluxeMoustache]

Yeah, I don’t generally find the expression annoying.*

Remember when Hartley was coaching and they were fine giving shots up from the outside?

They gave the other team time on the outside, but collapsed inside to take useful space away.

Usually time and space is used referring to a situation where there is a lack of defensive pressure in a meaningful or dangerous place

*However, early in Harnarayan’s career, I kept hearing him talking about some guy in the neutral zone having time and space. That was annoying because it was a place where leveraging the available space was several other events removed from a meaningful consequence

[jlh2640]

I love discussions like these. I don’t agree at all though. I totally get why it’s said and quite often they are so related on the ice that it always makes sense to me. But maybe that’s just me.

[Strange Brew]

When you’re skating to retrieve a puck with your back to the play, your teammate will yell “time” if no one is immediately on you. No need for them to yell “time and space”.

I really can’t think of a situation where the PBP would say a player has time and space and simply one or the other wouldn’t convey the same message. But it’s become part of the vocabulary, just like “structure”. It will pass eventually I imagine. That’s my ask at least.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

When you’re skating to retrieve a puck with your back to the play, your teammate will yell “time” if no one is immediately on you. No need for them to yell “time and space”.

I really can’t think of a situation where the PBP would say a player has time and space and simply one or the other wouldn’t convey the same message. But it’s become part of the vocabulary, just like “structure”. It will pass eventually I imagine. That’s my ask at least.

I can’t think of a situation where a PBP guy would say “Wheel!”

[troutman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

What about space-time?

Gravity is the curvature of space time.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by troutman

Gravity is the curvature of space time.

I mean, according to Einstein

[Jay Random]

Of course, the real reason PBP guys say ‘time and space’ is because it takes an extra second, compared to just ‘time’ or just ‘space’.

Filling airtime is the #1 skill for broadcasters, especially on Sportsnet. If the broadcast crew ever stopped talking for even one second, it might cause Ron MacLean to appear out of thin air and start reciting poetry. This, it is universally agreed, would be a Bad Thing.

Hence, the usefulness of surplus wordage.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Of course, the real reason PBP guys say ‘time and space’ is because it takes an extra second, compared to just ‘time’ or just ‘space’.

Filling airtime is the #1 skill for broadcasters, especially on Sportsnet. If the broadcast crew ever stopped talking for even one second, it might cause Ron MacLean to appear out of thin air and start reciting poetry. This, it is universally agreed, would be a Bad Thing.

Hence, the usefulness of surplus wordage.

3 syllables

Time and space takes roughly the same time to say as McDavid , without superlatives

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

3 syllables

Time and space takes roughly the same time to say as McDavid , without superlatives

Long vowels take longer to say than schwas. Plus you can draw out those ‘m’ and ‘s’ sounds.

(This is the kind of useless crap you learn when you major in linguistics. They measure speech sounds in milliseconds, for crying out loud.)

The thing is, you can talk about McDavid all through an intermission no matter who's playing. But if the Oilers are not in the game, it's tough to work that name in every minute of the actual PBP. So ‘time and space’ is the currently fashionable filler noise.

Hey, things could be worse. We could have Roger Millions saying ‘he couldn't handle it cleanly’ every time a player flubs receiving a pass.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^
Great stuff

I chuckled

[Locke]

Do we really have to modify the deflector dish to emit a tachyon beam?

It feels like we are.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Why are announcers addicted to this phrase?

They use it to mean someone is open. It has nothing to do with time, since they never say it when time is running out. If the defender is closing on someone, say that.

“Time and space”. There was time, but there was just no space! There was space, time just ran out!

Heard it six times so far in the second period(!) of the Tampa Bay/Florida game. The new “literally” of phrases.

Players got a 6th sense of the 3rd and 4th dimensions.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Space, sure. How can you have space and no time unless the clock is expiring? Just an irritating phrase to me.

Time is in a different dimension than space.

So there’s that.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

When you’re skating to retrieve a puck with your back to the play, your teammate will yell “time” if no one is immediately on you. No need for them to yell “time and space”.

I really can’t think of a situation where the PBP would say a player has time and space and simply one or the other wouldn’t convey the same message. But it’s become part of the vocabulary, just like “structure”. It will pass eventually I imagine. That’s my ask at least.

It’s a process.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Time is oh so valuable
Space is something that’s wasted by some posters who make 7 or 8 hundred posts per day (the last point was not directed at anyone in this thread…… so far)

Space is big. Really big.

[GioforPM]

Related:

Is there ever "pushing" without "shoving"?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Related:

Is there ever "pushing" without "shoving"?

I think so. I don’t think there’s shoving without pushing though

I think of a shove as a rough or aggressive push

[GirlySports]

its just an expression.

"Kadri receives the puck in space". It doesn't mean he's left earth

[ThisIsAnOutrage]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Fantasticly stated!

Some in these forums live to be banned and restart again (hundreds of meaningless posts per day) till they become “franchise player” again
When
In reality
They are never more than a “number 1 goat ender” in any realistic situation.
Effectively wasting time and taking oxygen (space) from everyone else

But what if they used smaller, faster electrons? You can order them from Amazon now..Delivery takes 10 - 15 days though, even with prime.

[Yeah_Baby]

If player is able to skate around the sun fast enough than they can slingshot themselves into the past.