Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Put it this way..

If the Flames somehow walked out of the draft with BOTH Celebrini AND Tij Iginla, and Celebrini became a superstar while Tij was simply a middle 6 forward, I'd bet you'd still see twice as many Iggy Jr jerseys than Celebrini jerseys at minimum.

People wanna argue his last name and who his father is doesn't/shouldn't bring him any extra value to the org, but that is simply wrong.

But are we trying to win a championship or sell jerseys?

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

But are we trying to win a championship or sell jerseys?

It's not like we'd be drafting a projected 4th rounder in the top 10 here...

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Who his dad is and his last name should be irrelevant when it comes to our selection. If scouts think he is the best player when we pick they should draft him. If they think someone else is better than we should draft them. Simple.

Disagree. There is not a prospect in this draft who Craig knows more than Tij. He held him as a baby and has known him his entire life. One thing teams try extremely hard to do is understand a players upbringing and family life and they know plenty about Tij.

Ultimately he has been one of the fastest rising prospects this year. Start of the season he was seen as a 2nd round pick and has put himself in the top 10 now based on a phenomenal season.

I would rather have the Flames pick Iggy and he bust opposed to them passing on him for someone else and watch him become far better than the prospect we draft. No guarantee either happens but adding an Iginla to this team is second only to winning the lottery and getting Celebrini or the consensus number 2 Russian player.

It does feel like for every flame fan that wants iggy for being an iggy there is one who doesn’t want him for the same reason

[DeadShot]

Don't know if it's been said yet, but there is also the consideration of how Tij would handle having to come to work every day to a place your Dad's jersey is hanging in the rafters literally above your head every time you look up.

It's not always an easy thing to follow in someone else's footsteps, and his last name carries a lot of weight in this city.

I don't think that's a reason to not draft him by any means, but as far as his development and the pressure put on him (especially by fans). It would need to be handled properly.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

But are we trying to win a championship or sell jerseys?

We're trying to finish 9th and sell jerseys.

[Jason14h]

I have more faith in an Iginla figuring out how to be a good NHL players then the other forwards avail between 6-12

Lots of playes bust/relatively bust in that range. But gut says at worse with an Iginla you get a player who becomes an established successful NHLer

Look at Max Domi as an example . He may not have turned into a star but I look at that type of career as the floor

For fun was looking at that 1st round draft year... Offff Flames lower picks

https://www.eliteprospects.com/draft...try-draft/2013

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Disagree. There is not a prospect in this draft who Craig knows more than Tij. He held him as a baby and has known him his entire life. One thing teams try extremely hard to do is understand a players upbringing and family life and they know plenty about Tij.

Ultimately he has been one of the fastest rising prospects this year. Start of the season he was seen as a 2nd round pick and has put himself in the top 10 now based on a phenomenal season.

I would rather have the Flames pick Iggy and he bust opposed to them passing on him for someone else and watch him become far better than the prospect we draft. No guarantee either happens but adding an Iginla to this team is second only to winning the lottery and getting Celebrini or the consensus number 2 Russian player.

It does feel like for every flame fan that wants iggy for being an iggy there is one who doesn’t want him for the same reason

I want the organization to choose the player they think is best, absent the name on the back of the jersey.
If they think that's Tij - great.
I also think though this draft is a unique opportunity, in the range they will pick in, to get either a centre or D. That's not drafting for positional need, it's just recognizing the higher values of those premium positoins that are also scarcer.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Scooter

Teams win championships not one player alone. How many cups does Iggy have?

I don't understand the relevance of this comment. We are drafting one player with that pick. If it were an option to go up and draft the 2028 Stanley Cup champions, I would probably do that instead.

[DeadShot]

What I really do like in Tig's case is that the Flames scouts should have a better handle on his "intangibles" than any other team. Players are so well drilled by the time they make the draft. Better than ever when it comes to what to say, what not to say, media, interviews, etc. I imagine it can be very difficult when you sit down with a player for 30 minutes to know if you are getting the real scoop, or if you are getting fed canned answers that their agent has drilled them on. Nobody is going to come right out and say "ya...I stay up until 4AM on game days playing Fortnite"

With Tij, there is likely a very good understanding of his character, commitment, etc. for the Flames that other teams wouldn't necessarily have.

You have to think that this likely bumps him up the flames internal draft board because he would have fewer question marks around these areas for the Flames.

Nobody knows which pick is going to be a bust, or which 4th rounder is going to pop off. (unless it's the Oilers, then there is a higher than normal chance of them ruining a prospect).

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by DeadShot

Don't know if it's been said yet, but there is also the consideration of how Tij would handle having to come to work every day to a place your Dad's jersey is hanging in the rafters literally above your head every time you look up.

If he's such a delicate flower that he can't handle that then his make-up is such that I wouldn't want the Flames to draft him at all so we can pass and let some other team make that mistake.

[GioforPM]

Josh Doan seems to be handling playing for AZ just fine. And IMO Josh/Shane Doan Tij/Jarome Iginla are about as close a modern day match as you can find in terms of star dad who was a team icon and promising son. Plus they were probably raised knowing each other.

[cannon7]

Honzek's postseason cut frustratingly short, two goals in five games and one of those was an empty netter. Has his work cut out for him going into camp next season.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Unless Iggy Jr. proves he can play, no one will pay to simply watch him play.

Draft him if you believe in him for sure. But he's worthless if he can't play. Like any other failed draft pick.

That could be said about anybody in the draft.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Josh Doan seems to be handling playing for AZ just fine. And IMO Josh/Shane Doan Tij/Jarome Iginla are about as close a modern day match as you can find in terms of star dad who was a team icon and promising son. Plus they were probably raised knowing each other.

Expectations are not nearly as high for Josh Doan than for Tij. I think that's the biggest difference. You're drafting Iggy with a top 10 pick with almost an expectation that he turns into a franchise winger like his dad, in the market where his dad was an icon. No one's putting those kinds of expectations on Josh Doan. That's a lot of pressure.

[DeadShot]

Originally Posted by Parallex

If he's such a delicate flower that he can't handle that then his make-up is such that I wouldn't want the Flames to draft him at all so we can pass and let some other team make that mistake.

LOL. Delicate flower is quite the jump from me saying that they should consider the pressure that comes with his last name in Calgary when looking at development and expectations



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[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Disagree. There is not a prospect in this draft who Craig knows more than Tij. He held him as a baby and has known him his entire life. One thing teams try extremely hard to do is understand a players upbringing and family life and they know plenty about Tij.

Ultimately he has been one of the fastest rising prospects this year. Start of the season he was seen as a 2nd round pick and has put himself in the top 10 now based on a phenomenal season.

I would rather have the Flames pick Iggy and he bust opposed to them passing on him for someone else and watch him become far better than the prospect we draft. No guarantee either happens but adding an Iginla to this team is second only to winning the lottery and getting Celebrini or the consensus number 2 Russian player.

It does feel like for every flame fan that wants iggy for being an iggy there is one who doesn’t want him for the same reason

I never said I didn't want him, I said they should draft the best player the scouts say is there. I have seen on publication have Iginla in the top 10 and it was not exactly the most reputable. All of the big name draft guys have him outside the top 10.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I never said I didn't want him, I said they should draft the best player the scouts say is there. I have seen on publication have Iginla in the top 10 and it was not exactly the most reputable. All of the big name draft guys have him outside the top 10.

Who are the big name draft guys? Why have a scouting department.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Who are the big name draft guys? Why have a scouting department.

The usual suspects, Wheeler, Pronman, etc... I am not sure what your scouting department has to do with my comment, I am the one arguing we should take who the scouting department says, not just because someone is Iginla's son.

[FlamesAddiction]

It will be interesting to see where Iginla is on different rankings once the more reputable ones release their final lists. A lot of them haven't been updated in quite a while.

[Reggie Dunlop]

There's always Joe....