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		|  03-12-2024, 09:10 PM | #301 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bonded  lol what do you think a fair return for Markstrom is? |  
Im not sure but if Conroy didnt think it was good, it must have been real not good
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:10 PM | #302 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1qqaaz  This just isn't possible. Way too many of the vets are old with long contracts. |  
Lol You are moving the goal posts.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:11 PM | #303 |  
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					Originally Posted by FanIn80  The same SJ that dusted us for 6? |  
Hey look here comes Mr no context into the convo late
		 
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:11 PM | #304 |  
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					Originally Posted by dammage79  I think the vets are shook to be honest. They've all been a part of the players having their way for so long. "Give us a chance to do this" year after year. 
 Now, the ex player gm says, nope, not again.
 
 It's gonna be rough sledding for the rest of the year. Unless them vets get over things.
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Why would the care ? It’s actually in their best interest to lose and bring in an impact player sooner then later 
 
They are planning their golf game and summer vacation 
 
This is what fans around here don’t understand about “tanking” . It isn’t the players trying to lose . It’s players realizing the games don’t matter who are signed long term and not sacrificing or caring 
 
It can become infectious which is a risk , but I would worry for the last 20 games . I’m sure there is a disappointment from trading players when as a team they fought all year for wins and were competitive 
 
This is also why you need specific veterans to leads a rebuild . Ones that have won before and aren’t hungry to win per se , but hungry to play the right way and mentor .
 
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #305 |  
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					Originally Posted by DropIt  I saw the Tanev and Hanifin trade. Plenty awful |  
Tanev got far and away the 2nd best return for dman that was traded at the deadline. Obviously Hanifin blew away the competition and probably got the best return of any player at the deadline, by leaps and bounds. Only the Oilers overpay compares the returns Conroy got for his pieces.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #306 |  
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			Oh no, poor Wolf is going to get hung out to dry against Colorado.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #307 |  
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					Originally Posted by DropIt  I saw the Tanev and Hanifin trade. Plenty awful |  
They were UFAs, so Conroy forced to trade them. But Andersson and Weegar different.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #308 |  
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					Originally Posted by DropIt  30? 
 Thats 3 seasons away
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Yes but he has a NTC kicking in for the next 2 years. It’s better to ahead of the situation, instead of him wanting and having limited options in the last year, or the team making a massive mistake with a 8 year deal.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #309 |  
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			Just remember, embrace the suck. I trust Conny can have this organization bottom out and bounce back up in a hurry.
		 
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #310 |  
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					Originally Posted by Erick Estrada  Yeah lets go head to head with the Hawks for worst team in the league!  It's clear the blueline and Markstrom was the only reason this team was in the playoff race.  Take away an entire pairing and they can't keep pucks out of the net.  Just imagine what it would be like without Andesson and Weegar. |  
If we take out too much we might end up in a spotthat's really hard to recover from. We won't have anything left for the young players coming in if we get rid of too many players.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:14 PM | #311 |  
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					Originally Posted by Aarongavey  Tanev got far and away the 2nd best return for dman that was traded at the deadline. Obviously Hanifin blew away the competition and probably got the best return of any player at the deadline, by leaps and bounds. |  
This is very true. If anything was awful this trade deadline, it was the market
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:14 PM | #312 |  
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:14 PM | #313 |  
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					Originally Posted by dino7c  Hey look here comes Mr no context into the convo late |  
We are SJ bad now. 
 
Zary has been a nice surprise, but these "young guns" are either not ready, or not just not top 6 level talent
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:16 PM | #314 |  
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			Huby with another elite no-look turnover.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:16 PM | #315 |  
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:18 PM | #316 |  
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					Originally Posted by NewFan  So why Hawks and Sharks doing it? They are out off mind? |  
I would say the Sharks are indeed.  I don't know if anyone around the league knows exactly what they are doing because they are going to be terrible for a long, long time.  Hawks have Bedard but they still have a long way to go because they stripped things down too far and I'm not in love with their prospects considering how bad they have been.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:18 PM | #317 |  
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					Originally Posted by Aarongavey  Tanev got far and away the 2nd best return for dman that was traded at the deadline. Obviously Hanifin blew away the competition and probably got the best return of any player at the deadline, by leaps and bounds. Only the Oilers overpay compares the returns Conroy got for his pieces. |  
Hertl got a better return
 
Tanev got a 2nd round pick and a C prospect 
Hanifin got a 1st round pick thats hopefully good, remains to be seen, and maybe a 2nd round pick
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:19 PM | #318 |  
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					Originally Posted by DropIt  We are SJ bad now. 
 Zary has been a nice surprise, but these "young guns" are either not ready, or not just not top 6 level talent
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Don't be too hard on them. We were playing better when we had our previous defense. It just takes a couple of losses to shake everybody's confidence which. Has pretty much happened.
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:19 PM | #319 |  
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		|  03-12-2024, 09:19 PM | #320 |  
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					Originally Posted by DropIt  We are SJ bad now. 
 Zary has been a nice surprise, but these "young guns" are either not ready, or not just not top 6 level talent
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