[Rumour] Dreger: Markstrom trade won't happen unless NJ includes Mercer and higher draft pick

[NewFan]

Anyway, it's done now.
Now let's hope we get WC2 or bottom 10 position while we losing games 1-2 OR 2-3 score.

[Infinit47]

[QUOTE=dgibb10;9024942]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Over the last 3 years Jake Allen has a +ve GSAx while Vladar is around -15.

Did they also grab time machine to get Allen of three years ago? Right now Vladar is cheaper, wins more and has upside.

And I don't see anywhere the condition is 40 games and playoffs. Looks like just 40 games.

[Moneyhands23]

If/when markstrom gets traded this summer we can bump this thread..

Then we can all go CP culture and half of the posters can rip in to the other half lol

[FlamesAddiction]

It doesn't bother me that Markstrom wasn't traded. There is always the offseason to sort it out. Honestly, I never thought it was likely so I never got my hopes up. Plus, the prices teams were paying leading up to the deadline weren't exactly great.

[dgibb10]

[QUOTE=Infinit47;9025087]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Did they also grab time machine to get Allen of three years ago? Right now Vladar is cheaper, wins more and has upside.

And I don't see anywhere the condition is 40 games and playoffs. Looks like just 40 games.

Vladar has a much worse GSAx than allen this year too

[devo22]

I mean, the Kahkonen/Vanecek swap makes a ton of sense for them if they want to try for Markstrom again in the summer. To me, it's the Allen deal that is the real headscratcher here.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Holtz + 1st

Even if you don't love Holtz, do you not think a player who is playing minimal minutes and putting up some points in his first NHL season would blossom getting 1st/2nd line and PP time in Calgary??? If you don't like him flip him in a season or 2 and get the assets you want. NJ 1st very likely to be turned into a decent asset.

Very much doubt the Flames are getting a mid-round 1st rd pick for a 34 (to be 35) yr. old Markstrom this summer or anytime going forward, let alone another asset with significant offensive upside.

Just doesn't appear the Flames are committed to creating a contender and look to be again content being middle of the pack and brining in the odd first round playoff income for ownership.

The asset they want is a young top 6 center . There is no chance holtz could ever bring that back in a season or 2. Wingers won’t get you centres in trade.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by devo22

I mean, the Kahkonen/Vanecek swap makes a ton of sense for them if they want to try for Markstrom again in the summer. To me, it's the Allen deal that is the real headscratcher here.

I think Fitz is flat out not banking on Schmidt nor Daws at this point. He is pretty damn blunt in his press conference that he's going big game hunting this Summer, so they'll roll a new #1 with Allen as their new #2 for 2024/2025.

[The Yen Man]

I'm kind of glad we didn't trade Markstrom in season, it makes the last 20 or so games worth watching.

Flames are gonna finish in the mushy middle regardless. Might as well cheer for some wins hoping they can get into the playoffs.

[fotze2]

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The risk is waiting is less that the market doesn't come to fruition, but more that Markstrom decides to limit his market with his NMC.

Teams looking for goaltending for sure: Ottawa, Buffalo, New Jersey, Los Angeles, Toronto

Teams that might want new goalies: Colorado, Detroit, Minnesota, Columbus, Carolina, Edmonton

So there potentially is a market there...but the risk is that in the offseason teams tend to sometimes go "We can get by with what we have" or Markstrom just decides that he doesn't want to waive.

But there’s always risk. To me that’s the real problem here. Fans only want perfect moves that are easy and obvious wins for the flames, involve an overpay from our trade partner and are perfect in hindsight.

It’s just not that easy. What is easy to do is criticize Conroy for not doing what we want (get a huge return for Marky). Ultimately Conroy will make the right move some times and the wrong move other times. To be a good GM he needs to make more good moves than bad but the margins are razor thin.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The risk is waiting is less that the market doesn't come to fruition, but more that Markstrom decides to limit his market with his NMC.

Teams looking for goaltending for sure: Ottawa, Buffalo, New Jersey, Los Angeles, Toronto

Teams that might want new goalies: Colorado, Detroit, Minnesota, Columbus, Carolina, Edmonton

So there potentially is a market there...but the risk is that in the offseason teams tend to sometimes go "We can get by with what we have" or Markstrom just decides that he doesn't want to waive.

6K has been absolutely fantastic why would they be buying a goalie? If they're moving a goalie NJD should be all over him.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

Cry baby. If I have something I don't want to sell and KNOW you need it, you are damn well sure I will be asking for the moon.

Someone comes to my door an offers me 20k over value of my house? No thank you. Offer me twice what its worth? Where do I sign.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

Translation: Conroy was a big meany who didn't accept the crap I offered.

[Burn13]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

Lol yeah the Flames just roll everyone in trades. This guy doesn't last the end of next year for NJ with his yappy media calls.

[Paulie Walnuts]

His comments seem to indicate it will not be Mercer moved.

I would be shocked if a deal with Jersey gets done if we don't come off Mercer. Fitzgerald sounds like a baby, and made dumb moves to get 2 backups.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

Waaaahhhhhhhh!

I want a number one goalie but don't want to pay for it.

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766234493965545979


lol

“Extorting” lol

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Muffins

Translation: Conroy was a big meany who didn't accept the crap I offered.

And Conroy just raised the price for the summer.