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			There are still teams that are happy to trade for Hanifin as a rental, and those packages will look good too.  I am not overly worried about Hanifin focusing on Tampa (although rumours abound that there are a few other teams still in it?) since if it is pennies on the dollar, Conroy can just flip Hanifin to whatever contender needs a top 4.   
 
 
 
The 2006 1st from Tampa is the nugget here.  Same as from Boston.  Two teams with limited assets because they are still trying to cling onto being a contender.  This can only last so long.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 10:40 PM
			
			
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			Whether there has been behind the scenes shenanigans by Hanifins camp or not. There has been enough chatter about it across platforms that most people likely assume his camp screwed the Flames.  So at this point, whether it’s true or not, likely makes little difference vs accepted opinion.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 10:41 PM
			
			
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				There are still teams that are happy to trade for Hanifin as a rental, and those packages will look good too.  I am not overly worried about Hanifin focusing on Tampa (although rumours abound that there are a few other teams still in it?) since if it is pennies on the dollar, Conroy can just flip Hanifin to whatever contender needs a top 4.   
 
 
 
The 2006 1st from Tampa is the nugget here.  Same as from Boston.  Two teams with limited assets because they are still trying to cling onto being a contender.  This can only last so long. 
			
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I don’t know, I think we can do better than Riku Heleniu.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 10:42 PM
			
			
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				Whether there has been behind the scenes shenanigans by Hanifins camp or not. There has been enough chatter about it across platforms that most people likely assume his camp screwed the Flames.  So at this point, whether it’s true or not, likely makes little difference vs accepted opinion. 
			
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I still don’t see how he screwed the Flames. If they didn’t want to trade him as a pure rental they should have trade him last deadline
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 10:43 PM
			
			
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				I believe NTCs can be written in varying ways as well, so it’s entirely possible that Noah didn’t have to submit his trade list until somewhat recently - and at that stage he could have used it as a ploy. 
			
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I believe the normal way those clauses are written is that the list is supplied at the start of each contract year, July 1. I don't know about Hanifin's contract specifically.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-05-2024, 10:46 PM
			
			
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				Like Lanny said, we could be waiting until 2030 before the kid makes the team! 
			
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Doesn't matter. The asset is equally good for the team... time doesn't matter. People just want the now
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-05-2024, 10:46 PM
			
			
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			I am told the 8 no trade teams include all Canadian teams. 
 
That leaves a lot of teams open, without his consent.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Has anyone put Florida teams on their NM clauses? Lol
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:03 PM
			
			
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				How Seravalli describes it is that multiple times Hanifin's camp has gotten involved and kiboshed deals by basically tampering behind the scenes and letting other teams know Hanifin doesn't want to play there. The reason they are able to do this is Brisson is the most connected agent in the league and has multiple connections in every front office who contact him when trade talks happen. It's also been reported that Hanifin doesn't want to be a rental. Basically they are controlling the process telling teams we won't sign there and we don't want to play there as a rental. 
 
So no this is not good for the Flames or just business as usual. This is above and beyond. Steinberg confirms he has heard the same. Both agree that this is beyond a point where Conroy is trying to do right by Hanifin. Frank used the terms "Gloves are off" 
			
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Conroy’s had his work cut out for him that’s for sure. I think we need to judge his whole body of work through this transition, when all is said and done, as opposed to any individual transaction. 
 
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			03-05-2024, 11:04 PM
			
			
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				I am told the 8 no trade teams include all Canadian teams. 
 
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Dude reaaalllllyyyyy doesn't like Canada. Haha
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:06 PM
			
			
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			03-05-2024, 11:09 PM
			
			
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				I am told the 8 no trade teams include all Canadian teams. 
 
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Send him to Carolina half retained for an extended Pesce. I was hearing on Kipreos’ show that Pesce is UFA and they may not sign him/keep him as their own rental. Get Hanifin as a half price rental and use the cap space to add else where for the playoffs if that’s the plan.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:10 PM
			
			
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			Sorry Noah. But let the door hit you so hard on the way out that your families family feels it. 
Holy entitled batman!!! Get this guy off my team.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:17 PM
			
			
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				Dude reaaalllllyyyyy doesn't like Canada. Haha 
			
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If I played in the NHL and had the choice via an NTC, I wouldn't want to play anywhere in Canada but here...maybe for different reasons then Hanifin but fact would remain, and I don't hate Canada.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:24 PM
			
			
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				I am told the 8 no trade teams include all Canadian teams. 
 
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So 6 Canadian teams as Calgary wouldn't be included as he signed the contract with them plus 2 American teams? I wonder which 2?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-05-2024, 11:26 PM
			
			
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				So 6 Canadian teams as Calgary wouldn't be included as he signed the contract with them plus 2 American teams? I wonder which 2? 
			
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			03-05-2024, 11:26 PM
			
			
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				So 6 Canadian teams as Calgary wouldn't be included as he signed the contract with them plus 2 American teams? I wonder which 2? 
			
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Edmonton 
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			03-05-2024, 11:30 PM
			
			
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				Sorry Noah. But let the door hit you so hard on the way out that your families family feels it. 
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You might get torched for this opinion.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-05-2024, 11:31 PM
			
			
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Edmonton Kentucky, just in case they ever get a team.
 
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				Edmonton 
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