Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Lol. I honestly have a hard time imagining that, and yet it seems to be a real thing...

It's true.

Interestingly, A&W decided give the Quarter Pounder some competition in the 1980s. So it introduced the "Third-of-a-Pound Burger." It was priced the same as the Quarter Pounder but with a third of a pound of beef, instead of just a quarter pound. It even outperformed the Quarter Pounder in taste tests.

But nobody bought it.

When A&W did focus groups to try and figure out why, the reason was simple. And hilarious. It turns out, people aren't so savvy with fractions.
More than half the people in the focus groups questioned the price of the third-pounder. They wanted to know why they should have to pay the same price for a third of a pound as they did for a quarter pound at McDonald's. They said A&W was overcharging them. You're ripping them off.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinf...nder-1.5979468

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Lol. I honestly have a hard time imagining that, and yet it seems to be a real thing...

There are some youtube videos that have come across my feed of people going out and asking very basic questions, sometimes even with the answer IN the question (IE: Where is the Great Wall of China located?")


The video is of people CAN NOT answer these questions...


I have a feeling it's selectively edited up to show the fails, of course, but still...

[TheIronMaiden]

There is a lot of #### posting. When I was younger I used to love playing stupid to get people heated.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's true.


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinf...nder-1.5979468

I bet a double quarter pounder would do a lot better than a half pounder

[Torture]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

IIRC by the time they fully pulled the trigger on it the regular market solution was already starting to replenish shelves (albeit slowly).

One thing I was surprised to learn is that it can be safe enough to split/crush adult pills for most kids (but probably not infants) - so the better option IMO would have been an education campaign on that and encouraging people to save the limited supply for infants

Many pharmacies were doing exactly this. And you're on the right track, but I think you'd want trained pharmacists doing this, not parents.

What would have made sense is investment/funding for pharmacists to formulate it for children rather than ordering a bulk supply of ####ty Turkish stuff that was never going to make it here in time anyways. Would have kept the money here and had a faster impact.

But hey, at least in the short term Smith got to score a few points dunking on the Feds.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Torture

Many pharmacies were doing exactly this. And you're on the right track, but I think you'd want trained pharmacists doing this, not parents.

What would have made sense is investment/funding for pharmacists to formulate it for children rather than ordering a bulk supply of ####ty Turkish stuff that was never going to make it here in time anyways. Would have kept the money here and had a faster impact.

But hey, at least in the short term Smith got to score a few points dunking on the Feds.

I would think shelf life might be a bit more of an issue that way? I would think compounding pharmacies could probably figure it out to some degree, but this tends to be a product you want to have on hand and ready to go as opposed to driving to a pharmacy every week or two.

My 16 month old is teething right now so he gets a couple doses a day...his dose is about 120mg right now, so a quarter of a 500mg tablet would have worked easily.

Next age/weight bracket is a 160mg dose for 'age 2/3; 24-35 lbs', then 240mg for 4/5; 36-47lbs.

Half of a 375 tab would be a tiny bit heavy at 187.5mg, but it's a wide enough range that it's probably well within a safe tolerance. If necessary a simple gov't website could have adjusted the brackets as necessary and bump the guideline for the 187.5 dose to say 28-35 lbs.

[puckedoff]

We tried crushing up tylenol for ours when he was a baby but he would always spill it off of the key or forget to plug his other nostril when trying with a straw.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Faust

Braid: Parker's ugly attack on Nenshi, and the politics of personal insult

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...ersonal-insult

Braid: Now TBA's Parker insults Poilievre. Will Premier Smith ever disown him?

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...e-smith-disown

Yikes. That's ugly. But not suprising.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I would think shelf life might be a bit more of an issue that way? I would think compounding pharmacies could probably figure it out to some degree, but this tends to be a product you want to have on hand and ready to go as opposed to driving to a pharmacy every week or two.

My 16 month old is teething right now so he gets a couple doses a day...his dose is about 120mg right now, so a quarter of a 500mg tablet would have worked easily.

Next age/weight bracket is a 160mg dose for 'age 2/3; 24-35 lbs', then 240mg for 4/5; 36-47lbs.

Half of a 375 tab would be a tiny bit heavy at 187.5mg, but it's a wide enough range that it's probably well within a safe tolerance. If necessary a simple gov't website could have adjusted the brackets as necessary and bump the guideline for the 187.5 dose to say 28-35 lbs.

Our little was teething during all of this - IIRC it was still good for awhile, maybe a month or two. Just had to be refrigerated and shaken before. Totally fine for a short term measure while the supply chain rebounded.

I wouldn't want to mix it myself (even if it is fairly straight forward) but we had no issues with the compounded stuff from our local pharmacy during the shortage.

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I would think shelf life might be a bit more of an issue that way? I would think compounding pharmacies could probably figure it out to some degree, but this tends to be a product you want to have on hand and ready to go as opposed to driving to a pharmacy every week or two.

My 16 month old is teething right now so he gets a couple doses a day...his dose is about 120mg right now, so a quarter of a 500mg tablet would have worked easily.

Next age/weight bracket is a 160mg dose for 'age 2/3; 24-35 lbs', then 240mg for 4/5; 36-47lbs.

Half of a 375 tab would be a tiny bit heavy at 187.5mg, but it's a wide enough range that it's probably well within a safe tolerance. If necessary a simple gov't website could have adjusted the brackets as necessary and bump the guideline for the 187.5 dose to say 28-35 lbs.

Dipping the soother in your wine glass a couple times will help calm the teething.
If you don’t have one already your pharmacist can give you a little gadget that cuts pills in half more precisely than a butcher knife.

[Izzle]

Yet another instance of the UCP focusing on things that the majority doesn't favour.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...erta-1.7126713

[Fuzz]

Does any other province do this? What is the benefit?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Yet another instance of the UCP focusing on things that the majority doesn't favour.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...erta-1.7126713

Can we draft her into the Russian Army and send her overseas?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Yet another instance of the UCP focusing on things that the majority doesn't favour.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...erta-1.7126713

#### that ####

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Does any other province do this? What is the benefit?

Apparently BC has municipal political parties. The article mentioned that there were some benefits, in terms of quickly identifying how an individual leans politically when they run for municipal government. That said, I don't agree with brining partisan politics to a municipal level.

[Ozy_Flame]

There are recent public polls about this issue, and the majority don't want it, just like the APP. Of course leave it to Marlaina to see the issue like this (from the article):

"I'm in favour, especially for the largest municipalities — maybe not everyone," Smith said on her Saturday morning radio program, Your Province. Your Premier.

"We've got 355 municipalities. The smaller the municipality, I don't know that they're as partisan. But when you get into a city the size of Calgary or Edmonton, you better believe it's partisan."

Formalizing that would bring more transparency, she said.

This is a direct shot at progressive support in Calgary and Edmonton. They want people to vote in their favor based on conservative baselines, not shades of grey.

And transparency? Really? Voting for individuals vs. voting for parties is the most honest form of picking your representative. What bizarro world is Marlaina living in?

This is one of the worst ideas to come from this disastrous band of circus clowns. They'd like you to vote on which clown car you like the best.

[Geraldsh]

Transparency alright, they want to see who the non-con local politicians are so they can focus their hate rhetoric .

[GGG]

We already have political parties.

The first and second place candidates in every race were endorsed by one of two PACs.

I think you need an open primaries with a preferential ballot for the election of party candidates. Many of the current problems exist because to become the nominee you need to be more extreme than the average voter wants. The presence or absence of political parties doesn’t change this.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GGG

We already have political parties.

The first and second place candidates in every race were endorsed by one of two PACs.

I think you need an open primaries with a preferential ballot for the election of party candidates. Many of the current problems exist because to become the nominee you need to be more extreme than the average voter wants. The presence or absence of political parties doesn’t change this.

Exactly, the PACs are informal parties and they tell the majority of voters who to vote for whether it be progressive or conservative so that voters don't have to do any research.

As fuzz has mentioned over the last week or so, voters are idiots and they don't want to take the time to research or get to know candidates and platforms especially if there a handful of councillors on the ballot or a dozen mayoral candidates. They just want to be told who is good and who is bad from their viewpoint.

[Fuzz]

I can't really see how having "this is your blue candidate" and "this is your orange candidate" can possibly improve matters. People who vote "blue no matter what," wield tremendous power in this province, so I can see why Smith would push for this. You can then expect them to align with the provincial party, at which point partisans will have near complete control. You won't get mayors standing up to the province for their cities benefits, you'll have them boot licking for dollars.