2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If Markstrom is getting frustrated and other teams are “waiting on Calgary” then Conroy is maybe starting to play with fire a bit pun intended.

You CAN be too greedy sometimes. That said, I still do believe Tanev should be able to fetch a 1st I’d think.

I would guess that other teams are waiting on Calgary to move their pieces. If you want to move Sean Walker you probably need at least one of the Calgary dmen to move first because the teams that might want Walker want one of Hanifin or Tanev more. Same probably goes for goaltenders. I doubt it is teams are waiting on Conroy to get back to them.

[keenan87]

I would be shocked if Tanev can't bring back a 1st. Don't worse depth dman get traded for 1sts every deadline?

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Lundell is a former 1st rounder himself (12th OA) so essentially that would be asking two first rounders from Florida. And he's still trending to be a good nhl player, unlike most 1st round picks who never make it. Mahura isn't too much to ask at all, he's currently in rotation for them. Solid player but not sure there is anything more than a bottom pairing defenseman there.

You’re right. Lundell is a former 1st. But Hanifin is a former top-5 pick. Anyways, we can just say you win if you’d like.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Domi, Bertuzzi, Chychrun, Hronek, Gavrikov, Ekholm, Patrick Kane, Jeannot, Meier (9 big names) were moved within a week of the deadline last year.

Taresenko and Horvat were moved 19 days out (which we are now).

The vast majority of the best players were right around deadline day.

Arguably the top forward (O’Reilly) was moved 16 days out and the top d-man (Orlov) 10 days out. The big fish move early because serious bidders want to get out ahead of it, and sellers don’t want to be left without a dance partner.

It’s not time to worry yet. But it won’t be a great sign if Tanev and Hanifin are still on the roster this time next week.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Nelson

You’re right. Lundell is a former 1st. But Hanifin is a former top-5 pick. Anyways, we can just say you win if you’d like.

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Yeah sorry for engaging in discussion and saying my opinion. I'll shut up now lol.

[cracher]

It's a gross thought sending Tanev to the Oil. He would instantly double the collective hockey IQ of all 3 pairings.

But Edmonton just might be the best place for minimizing the risk of him signing before July 1. We can afford a UFA overpay now, he just has to get there. How great would it be to send Morin or Brz or even Parekh/Buium out with Tanev? Fairly sure he can hang on long enough for Morin at least.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Saqe

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Yeah sorry for engaging in discussion and saying my opinion. I'll shut up now lol.

No, no, your opinion is valid and good. It just felt like I was in an argument, so I forfeited.

[Pekkerhead]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Tanev will bring back to seconds of a conditional first
Markstrom will bring back mediocre depending on salary retained
Hanifin will bring back a decent B+ 22-25 year old, second round pick, and then the camp dump/retaining will bring back the rest of the value if needed.

So in your mind Hanafin is worth significantly less than Lindholm? Interesting

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Nelson

No, no, your opinion is valid and good. It just felt like I was in an argument, so I forfeited.

You know a loss will go on your permanent record.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Dan403

You know a loss will go on your permanent record.

Haha That’s fine. I accept my lowly position.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

You mean Tanev for a 2nd, right?

Yes sorry.

[Backstop]

[Rejean31]

Call me crazy but I have a gut feeling that something is going to happen following today's game against the Jets. Don't think it will be a huge trade but I think I could see the Tanev deal going down today. Just a hunch.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I've never wavered from the original value thought so my expectations are still where they were a few months ago.

Lindholm's deal exceeded expectations which is great, but I avoid the roller coaster.

Lindholm and Hanifin for 1st, player, prospect
Hanifin for a 2nd

See what happens.

Biggest thing is avoiding extensions on 29 year old players, and facing the fact that they needed to make changes.

The Lindholm trade likely makes the total for all three work out at or above expectations.

Markstrom the interesting variable.

Markstrom for me is a clear win if we pull a 1st round pick + cost of any retention. We’ve got the organizational depth and the players age/contract situation doesn’t align with the team’s vision - so extracting a 1st + value for any financial considerations is a clear, and massive “W” in my eyes.

Anything around that and I think we can all sit back much in the way we did with the Lindholm trade and think “wow, impressive work by Conroy”. I think the idea of pulling a Mercer or Holtz is a bit of a pipe dream because there just isn’t a trade in the market that has happened like that before/in recent years. I think extracting a 1st + for a 34 year old goalie is an absolute massive W at the end of the day.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Tanev will bring back to seconds of a conditional first
Markstrom will bring back mediocre depending on salary retained
Hanifin will bring back a decent B+ 22-25 year old, second round pick, and then the camp dump/retaining will bring back the rest of the value if needed.

[dustygoon]

Interesting that Friedman is toning down Calgary trade talk. I assume this is Conroy asking for some room and laying off Marky in particular. Quid pro quo might be anything that comes from Friedman exclusively in the next while is right from Conroy.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Interesting that Friedman is toning down Calgary trade talk. I assume this is Conroy asking for some room and laying off Marky in particular. Quid pro quo might be anything that comes from Friedman exclusively in the next while is right from Conroy.

I mean, he isn't toning it down. He wanted too because he doesn't think it's fair to keep cycling their names through the rumour mill, but he had to bring them up again because all eyez on us.

[Caged Great]

I look at Hampus Lindholm’s trade as an estimated value for what Hanifin should return. It was a 1st + 2 2nds, + a very recent former first round pick at the time Urho Vaakanainen.

If the return is significantly less than that, it would be a disappointment.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/

Elliotte Friedman talks about Hanifin and Tanev on 32 Thoughts this morning.

On Tanev, he says there are a lot of teams interested. The Flames would trade Tanev if they were offered a 1st. Mentions some specific teams. He mentioned Toronto has offered a bunch of picks, none of them a 1st, and the Leafs don’t have a 2nd until 2027 (barf). He also discussed the Canucks, that they like the idea and don’t want the Oilers to get Tanev. Friedman them focused on the Oilers…

On Hanifin, he says the list of teams around Hanifin is growing because teams see where this is headed. Marek talked about Dallas and NJ. Friedman focused on two teams: Boston and Florida. He says these two teams are ahead of Tampa Bay and Toronto in what they can, or they might be willing to offer, not because of picks, but because of young players. He specially mentioned that Anton Lundell’s been thrown into things at times this year.

He didn’t have a lot to say about Markstrom. But he said Markstrom’s frustrated.

Yes. Make it happen.

[Toonage]

Seravalli on the DFO podcast this morning really paints a bleak pic for Hanifin's return suggesting that his side is trying to steer Calgary to move him to Tampa where he wants to sign in the off season. The thought being it limits what other teams would want to spend knowing Hanifin likely won't sign there.

Flies in the face of what Friedman is saying though.