[Trade] Elias Lindholm to VAN for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond 2024 4th

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

It's because they have sucked for years...they go on any kind of run and guys will come out of the woodwork.

I'll take that over year-round bloviating about how their loser squad of scumbags and divers are the children of destiny.

[Teroy]

I'd leave Pospisil on the Kadri line with Zary. That line hasn't been the same since he got injured.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I must be in the minority of Flames fans who doesn't even see much to hate in the current iteration of the Canucks.

The Kesler/Burrows era was a truly stupid ass group of turds. But this new one doesn't even register. I am not even sure I would be upset if they won a cup.

I agree. They are a pretty fun team. I quite like Boeser, Hughes, Pettersson.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1753170646807277821

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Every fanbase has its share of idiots, but I don't see Vancouver having any more or less than the average team. 2011 was a different beast, that team and its fans at the time were truly reprehensible.
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I mean they literally rioted over hockey.
Twice.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I mean they literally rioted over hockey.
Twice.

Well, it only makes sense.

If they rioted over rainy weather, they'd never get to go home.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Every fanbase has its share of idiots, but I don't see Vancouver having any more or less than the average team. 2011 was a different beast, that team and its fans at the time were truly reprehensible.

The Oilers and Leafs, and their respective fans, are orders of magnitude more insufferable than the Canucks. It's not even a contest. If I didn't already know that the Canucks were doing so well, I wouldn't have guessed. It's actually been pretty quiet from them IMO (maybe like us, they are just too jaded and traumatized from so many years of past failure to get too excited, always waiting for the other shoe to drop).

You can imagine what the crayon-eating bozos cheering for those other two teams would be like in the same position.

True story:

Canucks games in that era were the games for which the Flames had to add the most extra security of any opposition.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I mean they literally rioted over hockey.
Twice.

Like I said, that squad and its fans were awful, just completely off the wall obnoxious despite never winning squat. The Oilers have been all too happy to assume that mantle.

I guess I only have so much hate in my body, in my old age. All of it is directed at that goon squad up north. I don't have the energy to hate the Canucks for something that happened 13 years ago.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I must be in the minority of Flames fans who doesn't even see much to hate in the current iteration of the Canucks.

The Kesler/Burrows era was a truly stupid ass group of turds. But this new one doesn't even register. I am not even sure I would be upset if they won a cup.

That Kessler/Burrows era team was atrocious. Not just their "tough guys", but also their strategy and style of play. Draw penalties via diving then cycle on the PP. That team was so universally hated that everyone outside of Vancouver was cheering on Marchand as he punched Sedin in the face. The fans were equally obnoxious to the Canucks team itself. It was as though they'd adopted the Burrows attitude.

This team, however, is totally different. I actually like the attitude coming from guys like Hughes and Pettersson. Both seemed to be prioritizing actually playing good hockey to win games. The fans seem different too. A lot more humble, with most taking the wins as they come. As opposed to the previous iteration that would constantly tell you how "elite" various parts of the team were.

[Meers]

Good deal by Conroy.

It's really about the picks and Hunter Brzustewicz. Which is a nice haul. If you redid the 2023 draft, Hunter would easily be a mid/late first rounder.

As for the rest, Kuzmenko will be equal parts entertaining and infuriating for a season. Jurmo will never play in the NHL.

But most of all, it screws the Oilers. Nice trade.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

LOL, ok then haha. Any mental gymnastics there is ridiculous. Worst case scenario for the Flames, they got their desired returns of futures, and accepted Kuzmenko instead of retention to make the trade happen, which has 0 negative impact on the Flames.

Best case scenario, he becomes an incremental asset generator if we move him (this or next year) or he becomes a player that positively impacts our roster.

Actually, any mental gymnastic there is "ricardodw", you're here long enough to know that. How can you miss it?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Like I said, that squad and its fans were awful, just completely off the wall obnoxious despite never winning squat. The Oilers have been all too happy to assume that mantle.

I guess I only have so much hate in my body, in my old age. All of it is directed at that goon squad up north. I don't have the energy to hate the Canucks for something that happened 13 years ago.

Oh to be clear, I don't mind the Canucks at all now.
Their fans though.....

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Like I said, that squad and its fans were awful, just completely off the wall obnoxious despite never winning squat. The Oilers have been all too happy to assume that mantle.

I guess I only have so much hate in my body, in my old age. All of it is directed at that goon squad up north. I don't have the energy to hate the Canucks for something that happened 13 years ago.

This is me too, I just can't hate enough anymore to spread it out beyond the Oilers.
If the Canucks, Jets or even Leafs won the cup, I wouldn't be bothered.

But I understand any fans who feel differently, as I once did too and can understand that level of anti-rival passion.
I just don't have it in me anymore; I guess I'm getting soft.

[tony-soprano]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think Kuzy will outscore Lindholm the rest of the season actually.

Agreed, but Lindholm gets the opportunity to get eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Conny clearly still wants to see us to compete for playoffs. Markstrom is not moving any time soon based on that interview.

"Win or lose that's ok, but be competitive, young guys need to be in that environment"

IDK about that. He mentions Vlad ahead of Mark. I think we do see Markstrom traded

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Shazam

I expect a very green, sustainable riot this time from Vancouver fans.

Heh

[dammage79]

I'm pumped to see what Kuzmenko can do for the powerplay.

[activeStick]

Seriously, SN better be good to Steinberg. That guy is a complete beauty. Obviously, he took the lead last night while on vacation to cover the trade, but just now, he made a guest appearance on Kyper and Bourne to talk about the trade. Big fan of his work ethic and dedication.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I mean they literally rioted over hockey.
Twice.

We want three! We want three!

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Their fans though.....

He doesn't mean that. He loves me.

Originally Posted by activeStick

You have too much fun on CP as it is.

Depends your definition of too much. I think it's not enough and you ruined my attempt to have more.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

We want three! We want three!

He doesn't mean that. He loves me.

Depends your definition of too much. I think it's not enough and you ruined my attempt to have more.

Lol you want three? So a third heartbreaking playoff loss and subsequent trashing of the city?

You guys really are a special breed.

Made sense with PDO to lean into it, not so much with riots.