[Trade] Elias Lindholm to VAN for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond 2024 4th

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Really? How? 1st rounder. Check. "B" grade prospect (Brzustewicz). Check. Lesser prospect (Jurmo). Check. The rest is garbage. We take a player no one wanted and eat his salary for the remainder of the season and next. Compensation for that is a 4th rounder that might turn into a 3rd rounder. That's a wash at best. If he performs and fills the net without hurting the team he might return another asset net deadline. Risk associated with that which the Flames are not being compensated for IMO. So where is this WAY more return?

Does anything ever please you?

Conroy did better than everyone expected.

I’d argue Brzu is a B+, VERY close to an A- prospect with the D+1 he’s having.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Conny clearly still wants to see us to compete for playoffs. Markstrom is not moving any time soon based on that interview.

"Win or lose that's ok, but be competitive, young guys need to be in that environment"

Creating a competitive environment doesn't mean he can't make moves for the betterment of the future.

[Gaskal]

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

You have to make space for wolf for next season.

Something has to give.

[GioforPM]

All B prospects lead the OHL in points for a defencemen and are 3rd overall in their D+1 year.

[Ashasx]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1752877332128256212

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Conny clearly still wants to see us to compete for playoffs. Markstrom is not moving any time soon based on that interview.

"Win or lose that's ok, but be competitive, young guys need to be in that environment"

Eh, Feasted had the same messaging.

[InternationalVillager]

I've been really wanting Flames to be able to acquire Mavrik Bourque.

Perhaps for Hanifin.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Conny clearly still wants to see us to compete for playoffs. Markstrom is not moving any time soon based on that interview.

"Win or lose that's ok, but be competitive, young guys need to be in that environment"

I'm pretty OK with that. As long as he doesn't bring in aging vets to help...all good. The first shoe has dropped. More to come. News at 11....

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Treliving was taken down by the Balrog and the Valar sent us a resurrected Wizard to finish his task on middle earth

"I come back to you now at the turn of the tide"

[The Fonz]

Is it just me or does Pronman always hate our prospects?

Does anyone know what his thoughts on Andersson and/or Kylington were?

[simonsays]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Everyone dumping on Kuzmenko would have done the same midseason about Sharangovich last season. We have all been proven wrong on that deal. Kuzmenko has been buried in Vancouver's lineup and plays 3rd/4th line minutes much of the time. Give him a few months to see how it pans out. He was highly touted from the KHL for a reason, this isn't a one year wonder scenario. He's been a solid player outside the NHL for many years. I wouldn't write him off after half a season on a deep Canucks squad.

He has qualities, but the Tocchet (similar to Sutter) guidelines are not something he seems to be able to deal with. Highly skilled player and quality finisher vs a coach who wants everyone to adhere to his plan. Kuz doesn't seem to be able to play to the Coaches strengths while also being a scorer. Maybe we can rehab him. Maybe not. Maybe we should just let the forwards go, 'cause there isn't all that much chance left at getting in.

[St. Pats]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Prior to the 23 draft, our prospect list for defensemen was:

1) Poirier
2) Kuznetsov
3) Solovyov
4) ...

Now it is:

1) Morin
2) Poirier
3) Brzustewicz
4) Solovyov
5) Kuznetsov
6) Jurmo

Pretty big upgrade in a short period of time

First thing I was thinking when I saw possible returns was it all these forwards. But we are going to be down 2 D and our 3rd pairing is at best meh. I'm with you shoring up the defensive prospects is a good move.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Conny clearly still wants to see us to compete for playoffs. Markstrom is not moving any time soon based on that interview.

"Win or lose that's ok, but be competitive, young guys need to be in that environment"

Maybe just confirmation bias, but that was about as blunt of an admission of tanking as i've seen from this org since maybe 2013ish. Look at the face Conroy makes when Natasha asks him about the wildcard race. haha.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

https://twitter.com/user/status/1752877332128256212

Between him, Morin and Poirier the Flames should have some point producers on the back end.

[TheScorpion]

Kuzmenko will wear 96. First in Flames history.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Between him, Morin and Poirier the Flames should have some point producers on the back end.

I absolutely love homerun swings.

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Is it just me or does Pronman always hate our prospects?

Does anyone know what his thoughts on Andersson and/or Kylington were?

. Pronman had flames like mid 20s when they had tkachuk/andersson and Mangipane all in their system.

[keenan87]

Even if one of those 3 work out as a top dman...

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Kuzmenko will wear 96. First in Flames history.

Ecin.