[PGT] Flames 6 Perds 3

[Bingo Jr.]

Nice to see Zary pickup a couple, his puck protection is just elite.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

That's a funny shot to take at the Flames. Coincidentally, that bum Coleman had a goal, an assist and was +3 on the night.

not to mention the Flames have 39 points...exactly the same as the cup contender Oilers

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

not to mention the Flames have 39 points...exactly the same as the cup contender Oilers

But the games in hand Dino...... the games in hand.........hahaha

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Nice to catch Saros on an off night and take advantage of it. I'm always a bit in awe as to how much goal support Vladar gets at times.

His stats as a Flame are nothing special but for whatever reason he seems to get enough goal support to have a solid winning record when he starts.

[Tsawwassen]

Post game links
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/2567892/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/game/_/game...ames-predators
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401559822
https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/calgar...boxscore-40603
https://deadspin.com/flames-remain-o...ors-1851142563

[Jaybo]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Lol I loved that post, that mentality of focusing on All Stars and point production is why the Oilers are never going to even sniff a Cup with McDavid.

They can look back at McDavids tenure with them and be happy with annual All Star game and skill competition performances if they want.

Yeah, memories of winning fastest skater and losing the accuracy shooting competition to a Calgary Flame should really keep them warm.

[Strange Brew]

84 point pace. I’ve always kind of felt if they could get to a 90 point pace it means playoffs are a real possibility.

So moving in the right direction.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

84 point pace. I’ve always kind of felt if they could get to a 90 point pace it means playoffs are a real possibility.

So moving in the right direction.

I'm mixed if it's the right direction or not.

It's good for the young players on this roster who would grow from exposure to a playoff race and, in the unlikely event the Flames get into the dance, a couple of weeks of exciting hockey.

But it's bad for just about everything else.

I'll cheer and enjoy a couple of weeks of playoff hockey if they're so fortunate, but I shudder at the implications (draft position, temptation to not trade assets, etc.).

Hopefully the Flames can do some tidy business in advance of the TDL and move their UFAs, and I can enjoy the hockey down the stretch guilt-free.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I'm mixed if it's the right direction or not.

It's good for the young players on this roster who would grow from exposure to a playoff race and, in the unlikely event the Flames get into the dance, a couple of weeks of exciting hockey.

But it's bad for just about everything else.

I'll cheer and enjoy a couple of weeks of playoff hockey if they're so fortunate, but I shudder at the implications (draft position, temptation to not trade assets, etc.).

Hopefully the Flames can do some tidy business in advance of the TDL and move their UFAs, and I can enjoy the hockey down the stretch guilt-free.

This summarizes how I feel nicely.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

His stats as a Flame are nothing special but for whatever reason he seems to get enough goal support to have a solid winning record when he starts.

Vladar is scrappy. He seems to do enough to win. End of the day I’d rather have wins than a nice GAA or save %.

Ultimately that’s the only stat that matters.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Vladar is scrappy. He seems to do enough to win. End of the day I’d rather have wins than a nice GAA or save %.

Ultimately that’s the only stat that matters.

Getting wins because the team in front of you outscores your poor play doesn't seem like a very sustainable way to play, especially when the team in front of you is mediocre.

It might work this year for Georgiev because of how good Colorado is, but ultimately I think you want you goalie to actually be good and play well if you want long term success.

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by Locke

If he wins the Cup with this team I'll get him a Gorilla Chest Vest*!

*this offer is not legally binding as I think its inherently illegal, not sure but pretty sure? Also...I just can't do that.

I'll chip in with loafers that were former gophers

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I'm mixed if it's the right direction or not.

It's good for the young players on this roster who would grow from exposure to a playoff race and, in the unlikely event the Flames get into the dance, a couple of weeks of exciting hockey.

But it's bad for just about everything else.

I'll cheer and enjoy a couple of weeks of playoff hockey if they're so fortunate, but I shudder at the implications (draft position, temptation to not trade assets, etc.).

Hopefully the Flames can do some tidy business in advance of the TDL and move their UFAs, and I can enjoy the hockey down the stretch guilt-free.

I’m torn as well.

It would be good to get younger. But Lindholm and Hanifin aren’t that old. I can see getting rid of Tanev. But I think I’d still try and keep Lindy and/or Hanifin if we could. I get you want to move up in the draft. But if you look at past history it’s a complete crapshoot.

If I were Conroy I would get what I could for Tanev. I think we could partially absorb his loss with defensemen from the wranglers.

I’d seriously shop Markstrom because goaltending is where we have the most depth and I think he could be our biggest poker chip because he’s playing so well. Wolf needs to start playing on the big team as well and Vladar is good enough to win games. Could save a lot of capspace with this move.

I’d take another run at resigning Hanifin because he’s young and Lindholm because he might be our best all around player. If they are adament about not resigning I would dump them at the trade deadline. We’d have to get some functional players back though. If we lose both Tanev and Hanifin I don’t think we could absorb that internally. Might be able to absorb the loss of Lindholm although the lines would be all messed up again.

No matter what happens it’ll be an interesting next couple of months. I have no idea what is going to happen. The team is fun to watch. Maybe they will defy the odds and make the playoffs as well. Kind of like Nashville last year. I know not the best for the draft. But great experience for the young players and good for the culture of the organization.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Getting wins because the team in front of you outscores your poor play doesn't seem like a very sustainable way to play, especially when the team in front of you is mediocre.

LOL, that's what your favourite NO GOODS do....

[Wastedyouth]

Sell Sell Sell. Recent results be damned.

Lindholm/Markstrom/Hanifin/Tanev are not a core to win a cup. Time to rejig the franchise and move on.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

Nice to see Zary pickup a couple, his puck protection is just elite.

tons of Crosby in his game stylistically

[Domoic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

84 point pace. I’ve always kind of felt if they could get to a 90 point pace it means playoffs are a real possibility.

So moving in the right direction.

Totally agree. I am cherry picking here a bit, but:

- points pace since our bad 2-7-1 start is .607
- if that continues, we could get to 92 points
- top wild card team currently (Preds) is at 90 point pace

Conclusion? Playoffs very possible, IMO

(thanks in big part due on what may be a lower than usual threshold to get in)

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Vladar is scrappy. He seems to do enough to win. End of the day I’d rather have wins than a nice GAA or save %.

Ultimately that’s the only stat that matters.

think making timely saves impacts things too. easier to score when the you have a lead and the other team is pressing. harder to score when you're down a goal and the opponent can manage the puck

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Domoic

Totally agree. I am cherry picking here a bit, but:

- points pace since our bad 2-7-1 start is .607
- if that continues, we could get to 92 points
- top wild card team currently (Preds) is at 90 point pace

Conclusion? Playoffs very possible, IMO

(thanks in big part due on what may be a lower than usual threshold to get in)

Good on them for not rolling over but pushing for the playoffs likely means the team doesn't sell on Hanifin, Lindholm and Tanev. It would be really awful as this group isn't going to knock off the heavyweights and likely will lead to another situation where quality players are lost for nothing.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Domoic

Totally agree. I am cherry picking here a bit, but:

- points pace since our bad 2-7-1 start is .607
- if that continues, we could get to 92 points
- top wild card team currently (Preds) is at 90 point pace

Conclusion? Playoffs very possible, IMO

(thanks in big part due on what may be a lower than usual threshold to get in)

If everything trends forward as per what the teams in the race have been doing 91 to 92 points would get you in.

There are a lot of teams doing what the Flames have been doing. Win one or two then lose one or two. No big streaks. Seems to be a lot of parity.