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				Can we call up Coronato and send Mangiapane to popcorn alley? 
			
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Stuck with  Mangiapane, but I’m hoping some random team pops up and sees something in Dube. 2.5m and RFA after this season.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:45 PM
			
			
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				To be fair I haven’t seen a second of Wranglers action this year, how’s he looking? 
			
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Like a big improvement on Mangiapane. I think he has 8 points in 8 games.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:46 PM
			
			
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				Big Z was literally turning into my favourite Flame but for the love of god man help us help you get traded . His play since the trade request has spiraled 
			
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This is typical of a player requesting a trade. Your agent tells you play good for the two weeks and he tells you something is close… doesn’t happen and your effort goes to ####…. Any other flames player was guilty of this
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I think that second goal really rattled the team.  
 
 
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			11-20-2023, 10:46 PM
			
			
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			I liked the first period better.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:47 PM
			
			
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				Stuck with  Mangiapane, but I’m hoping some random team pops up and sees something in Dube. 2.5m and RFA after this season. 
			
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Find a way to move him, I know Huby makes way more but I am starting to believe that is the worst contract on the team. I am ok with Dube at his salary now, if he wants a raise he can go too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:49 PM
			
			
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				I think he has struggled most of the year...he certainly isn't better than anyone in the top four let alone "best on the team" 
			
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Yeah, Z was a fan favourite so a lot of his shortcomings were overlooked…once that trade request goes public, he lost that fan favourite shine and everyone is just hammering him for making the same mistakes he always has.
 
He’s not a star. He’s a big, physical defenceman who can skate and produce some offense. He makes mistakes.
 
…we also live in a world where Ben Chiarot returned what he did, so I’m just hoping we manage to capitalize on that sort of insanity. Z’s size and gritfactor hopefully benefits the Flames in a decent way come trade time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:49 PM
			
			
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				I think he has struggled most of the year...he certainly isn't better than anyone in the top four let alone "best on the team" 
			
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He's had lots of good play this year.  Was never our best defenseman, but was playing the best hockey of his career (with still the occasional bad play).  Then he opened his mouth, alienated his teammates, and turned his season on its head.
 
It's too bad, and hopefully he can get it going again soon.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:50 PM
			
			
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				Find a way to move him, I know Huby makes way more but I am starting to believe that is the worst contract on the team. I am ok with Dube at his salary now, if he wants a raise he can go too. 
			
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Yeah, if Dube doesn't turn it around, this will be the first season he doesn't improve his scoring totals.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Find a way to move him, I know Huby makes way more but I am starting to believe that is the worst contract on the team. I am ok with Dube at his salary now, if he wants a raise he can go too. 
			
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Mangiapane is fine. 
 
45-50 points is what in line with what you should expect for around $5.8M now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Bar is so low for goaltending around here 
 
2 bad goals but it's fine since he made a couple saves?  Saves are his job.  How about those with no bad ones?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-20-2023, 10:51 PM
			
			
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				Bar is so low for goaltending around here 
 
2 bad goals but it's fine since he made a couple saves?  Saves are his job.  How about those with no bad ones? 
			
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Agreed.
 
The 3rd goal I have no problem with…but outside of that, yeeeesh. Two bad goals in one game is generally a death sentence in a game…except their goalie did the exact same thing (and was pulled).
 
Vladar has not been good tonight.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:52 PM
			
			
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				Bar is so low for goaltending around here 
 
2 bad goals but it's fine since he made a couple saves?  Saves are his job.  How about those with no bad ones? 
			
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The same could be said about some forwards. Ya, happy were getting some goals, but 5 isn't something to write home about. 
 
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				Yeah, Z was a fan favourite so a lot of his shortcomings were overlooked…once that trade request goes public, he lost that fan favourite shine and everyone is just hammering him for making the same mistakes he always has. 
 
He’s not a star. He’s a big, physical defenceman who can skate and produce some offense. He makes mistakes. 
 
…we also live in a world where Ben Chiarot returned what he did, so I’m just hoping we manage to capitalize on that sort of insanity. Z’s size and gritfactor hopefully benefits the Flames in a decent way come trade time. 
			
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True, I liked the big hits and thought he was a good 3rd pair guy too but know your roll.  He thinks a contender will give him more ice??  GL
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Agreed. 
 
The 3rd goal I have no problem with…but outside of that, yeeeesh. Two bad goals in one game is generally a death sentence in a game…except their goalie did the exact same thing (and was pulled). 
 
Vladar has not been good tonight. 
			
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I don't think Grubauer was pulled for bad goals. Looked like an injury.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:54 PM
			
			
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				Bar is so low for goaltending around here 
 
2 bad goals but it's fine since he made a couple saves?  Saves are his job.  How about those with no bad ones? 
			
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it's not that the bar is low - no one is saying he's the star of the show here tonight
 
but maybe we can do better than just bitch about goaltending on every goal against, like Oiler fans
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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8gp 4g 4a 8pt
 
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			11-20-2023, 10:54 PM
			
			
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				Mangiapane is fine.  
 
45-50 points is what in line with what you should expect for around $5.8M now. 
			
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More like 40-45 points. If that costs almost 6M a year for a winger there is something wrong. Backlund was making less and was a 50-60 point very good two way centre. Let someone else pay him that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-20-2023, 10:55 PM
			
			
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			Vlad had 2 bad goals 
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