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Old 11-16-2023, 12:37 AM   #141
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It appears this initially worked, but it seems to have changed. More teams have been added to the league and it appears that teams have adjusted to the diminished probability of making the playoffs and completely nullified this perceived "creation of meaningful games" argument.
Dude, this is a Wendy's.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:44 AM   #142
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Dude, this is a Wendy's.
Ignore it if you want; it was addressing your argument.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:46 AM   #143
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Ignore it if you want; it was addressing your argument.
It's not my argument.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:47 AM   #144
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It's not my argument.
Okay, the argument that was brought up in your comment.
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Okay, the argument that was brought up in your comment.
Call Bettman and tell him. I'm all for all games being 3 points.

It's not going to happen.
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Old 11-16-2023, 06:36 PM   #146
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I'm fine with ties if it's 1 point for a tie and 2 points for a win. That makes all games equally important.

The soccer thing with 3 points for a win is awfully arbitrary. Why not 4 for a win and 1 for a tie? 7 for a win and 1 for a tie?
I agree.

Soccer fans have told me that the idea of giving 3 points for a win is to encourage more scoring and fewer ties. If so, it sure doesn't seem to be accomplishing much.

By the way, I love that you brought up the coefficient of variation. This is the kind of analysis that should be going on in a multi-billion-dollar business, but the people making the decisions appear to be too cool for school and can't bother their heads about any number unless it has a dollar sign in front.

I'm sure the NHL employs people who actually do run these sorts of pertinent numbers. Trouble is, they keep them locked in the basement, right next to the cast of The IT Crowd.
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It is well known that playoff positions are basically solidified by November.

What they want is the perception of competition. Better?
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Old 11-17-2023, 05:37 AM   #148
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I agree.

Soccer fans have told me that the idea of giving 3 points for a win is to encourage more scoring and fewer ties. If so, it sure doesn't seem to be accomplishing much.

By the way, I love that you brought up the coefficient of variation. This is the kind of analysis that should be going on in a multi-billion-dollar business, but the people making the decisions appear to be too cool for school and can't bother their heads about any number unless it has a dollar sign in front.

I'm sure the NHL employs people who actually do run these sorts of pertinent numbers. Trouble is, they keep them locked in the basement, right next to the cast of The IT Crowd.
Thanks, friend!

I'd like to think they also run these fairly simple bivariate analyses before trotting Bettman out to talk about "an increase in competitive games" which...don't actually exist.

If 16/21 teams make the playoffs...then 16/32...then 16/64 someday...teams will act upon their incentive.
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Old 11-17-2023, 07:56 AM   #149
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Would regrouping be considered skating the puck back across the red line. Would you be able to pass it back to the goalie? I am trying to think of ways they would skirt the regroup to retain possession.
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Old 11-18-2023, 10:22 AM   #150
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I don't want any new rules adding complications to OT. Yes, it can be boring sometimes but PPs and 5 on 5 play can be boring at times as well. It is what it is.

The only thing I would change about OT is the end swap. They should stay in the same net after the third period to eliminate the long change in OT.
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Old 11-18-2023, 10:28 AM   #151
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Lets come up with some crazy OT rules.

Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
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Lets come up with some crazy OT rules.

Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.

Crazy is fun.



The Goalie trapezoid grows in OT - Goalies are not allowed to play the puck in their own zone. They can only make saves, but they can not move the puck out of the way.


New offside rule: Teams will be penalized for off-side (2 min penalty) if the puck goes into the offensive zone without the team's goalie skating up the ice as a 4 man unit and staying in the neutral zone. Goalie can only go back to the net if the opposing team regains control.


Teams must play their groups of 3 players all from the same position. So only 3 Centres are out at one time, 3 LWs, 3 RW, 3 LD and 3 RD. No mixing and matching.
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Lets come up with some crazy OT rules.

Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
David Amber floated this idea on NHL Network.
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4 vs 4 Each team has a rover that can’t cross into their own zone.
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Lets come up with some crazy OT rules.

Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
3-on-3 but...you can only play with mini-sticks, goalies included.

And in the last minute of OT everyone has to play on their knees and they take the puck away and give you a tennis ball.
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Lets come up with some crazy OT rules.

Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
You'd end up exhausting McDavid and Draisaitl because neither would take themselves off the ice.
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Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
You know what I actually really like this idea… makes it more of a team thing and adds a lot of interesting strategy. Very cool, simple idea that could make the 3v3 super interesting.
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Players are only allowed to have a single shift and they can not play anymore. You must use your whole bench sparingly just like the shootout.
Love this!
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there are two pucks
There are only 4 lights!!!
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