2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Heavy Jack]

I’d be looking at Florida and some reuniting for the Panthers to try and bounce that contract.

To Calgary
Bobrovosky + Rodrigues

To Florida
Markstrom + Huberdeau

Flames save 5 years of purgatory with a 10.5 mill contract that just isn’t working and has a chance to never really work with how uncomfortable this situation is becoming for Huby and the Flames. Florida has committed to the their 3 to 5 year window with what they’ve done with their picks and prospect base so adding a proven high end winger back into the fold at the cost of an aging Goaltender with a bloated contract could make sense for them. Adding in Markstrom for Rodrigues is another reunion for the Panthers and makes sense in that the Flames would have to be swapping out a goalie to make this work and adding in Rodrigues while not the most exciting piece adds a filler contract over the next 4 years while the Flames rebuild the core and prep for the new arena.

A lot of reasoning there but if I stand back and consider the trade for both teams it kinda makes some sense. Thoughts?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I have heard from someone reliable that when free agency started they circled back and tried to do a 7 year deal and Edwards told him to eff off.

It was even in the letter his agent wrote for sports illustrated when they said they tried to do a 7 year deal.

I am guessing once he saw little interest in him and the offers he got that they panicked and it's probably why he ended up in Columbus.

Pierre Lebrun said the Devils offered 9 or just below.

Philly didn’t care to make cap space otherwise I think he would have ended up in Philly.

Then E
Pretty telling that he wasn't that highly regarded around the league.

We probably dodged a bullet. I don't think he cares much.

Seems like a lot of the NHL believed Tkachuk carried the mail on that line.

Murray edwards is an idiot if he turned down Johnny at 7 years out of spite. There’s a good chance we wouldn’t be in this mess if Johnny signed for 7 years. Doubt they would have traded for hubby.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If Gaudreau doesn’t have a hard coach, he is not what he can be.

His own dad literally said as much on tv.

I don't think it's what Sutter did on the ice as much as the expectations off the ice that got consistent performances from the top end.

I mean it's pretty obvious if you go back and see they came out firing under Peters as well and hit a wall always at the same time.

You need to commit yourself off the ice just as much as you do on ice and he was not doing it until Sutter came in.

He had 99 under Peters and 115 under Sutter difference was he remained consistent and didn't lose his legs half way through the season.

It's way stars like Mackinnon and Crosby are champs.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I’d be looking at Florida and some reuniting for the Panthers to try and bounce that contract.

To Calgary
Bobrovosky + Rodrigues

To Florida
Markstrom + Huberdeau

Flames save 5 years of purgatory with a 10.5 mill contract that just isn’t working and has a chance to never really work with how uncomfortable this situation is becoming for Huby and the Flames. Florida has committed to the their 3 to 5 year window with what they’ve done with their picks and prospect base so adding a proven high end winger back into the fold at the cost of an aging Goaltender with a bloated contract could make sense for them. Adding in Markstrom for Rodrigues is another reunion for the Panthers and makes sense in that the Flames would have to be swapping out a goalie to make this work and adding in Rodrigues while not the most exciting piece adds a filler contract over the next 4 years while the Flames rebuild the core and prep for the new arena.

A lot of reasoning there but if I stand back and consider the trade for both teams it kinda makes some sense. Thoughts?

I doubt Florida wants Huberdeau back

They know exactly what he is. Someone they can’t win with.

[Shazam]

MOD EDIT: Removed personal speculation.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If Gaudreau doesn’t have a hard coach, he is not what he can be.

His own dad literally said as much on tv.

I think this is true of many players (and people in life in general). Not a lot of people are self motivated, they need direction and sometimes stern direction to reach specific outcomes. That's why coaches exist.

I think the grass is always greener effect is also real with a lot of modern players. They are all young millionaires who are friends with players on other teams, and they hear stories of the glitz and glamour of other markets etc. They probably don't hear about the downsides. Sometimes you just fit better in a particular environment. It would not surprise me at all of Gaudreau regrets his choice. I also doubt Columbus was his first choice. Seemed like he just made a mess of his free agency opportunity.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Nm wrong thread. Had to fight though the ads to switch.

The pop up ads have been brutal on this site lately. The Epoch Times really wants my opinion I guess

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

The pop up ads have been brutal on this site lately. The Epoch Times really wants my opinion I guess

The one at the bottom of the page that takes a few seconds to even load so you can’t exit it - boo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Murray edwards is an idiot if he turned down Johnny at 7 years out of spite. There’s a good chance we wouldn’t be in this mess if Johnny signed for 7 years. Doubt they would have traded for hubby.

I think we got lucky he left. He was never truly part of the city and culture like others guys are or have been.

I think turning around and offering the same deal to a guy who has never played a game for your franchise speaks volumes.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think we got lucky he left. He was never truly part of the city and culture like others guys are or have been.

I think turning around and offering the same deal to a guy who has never played a game for your franchise speaks volumes.

I think half the reason thatcontract was offered to hubby was out of spite . The other half was trying to tell the nhl that star players would still sign in Calgary.

[dino7c]

He got offered the contract because he scored 115 points

More than Drai, Tkachuk, Marner, Matthews, MacKinnon, ect.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Murray edwards is an idiot if he turned down Johnny at 7 years out of spite. There’s a good chance we wouldn’t be in this mess if Johnny signed for 7 years. Doubt they would have traded for hubby.

That doesn't check out with anything I have heard at all. Johnny Gaudreau had every intention of signing with Calgary, he even ok'ed his agent on the final day of free agency to sign a contract. Then his wife put her foot down and that was that, he never tried to circle back to the Flames, that was never an option. He didn't choose Columbus either, another choice made by his wife. I am not degrading him here I am just telling you what happened, he had a choice between is hockey dreams and his new wife and soon to be family and he chose the latter. I think this is a guy who internally is torn, he loves his wife and being a dad yet he threw away everything he dreamed of accomplishing his whole life, he basically threw away becoming a hockey legend in a great hockey market to appease his wife and her family and so he has totally embraced that and has put hockey on the backburner. He didn't train pretty much at all this past offseason, he was too busy playing family guy and so he looks like #### out there, always gassed midway through shifts, not putting in anything but a go through the motions effort on the ice. He doesn't care about winning or the game now because I imagine that would eat him up inside because he isn't where he wanted to be. I do know Guy Gaudreau thinks he made a big mistake and I get the impression he is not a big fan of his daughter in law or her family.

[dino7c]

Spicy news

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's literally in the letter to the Flames fan that they tried to work out a 7 year deal.

Dragging his wife and family into this isn't cool.

[dino7c]

Gaudreau has less points than Huberdeau this season

[Vinny01]

Dissentbomb

I was thinking about the Kadri-Gaudreau swap and how it would be pretty funny that both teams would get their top target that year at less money offered. It was rumored the Jackets went over $8M for Kadri and we know the Flames had the Huberdeau deal on the table for Johnny. Flames save a year and $750K cap on what they offered and the Jackets shave a million or more off their offer.

I think Johnny would maybe waive to come back. Conroy can tell him from experience he left as a free agent and came back and it was amazing. I don’t see Kadri waiving at all to go to Columbus though. He likes playing in a Canadian market and it is not like it would be a better situation he would be getting into.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's literally in the letter to the Flames fan that they tried to work out a 7 year deal.

Dragging his wife and family into this isn't cool.

Again, he wanted to sign that deal before free agency, at no time did he actually try and circle back to Calgary. BT even stated at his press conference when he announced Gaudreau was going to free agency that he would not be coming back to Calgary and there was no chance he would circle back to the Flames. It never happened. I am not dragging his wife and family into it, that info was later confirmed by other media and reputable insiders including Frank Serravalli. It isn't a secret anymore.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

BT even stated at his press conference when he announced Gaudreau was going to free agency that he would not be coming back to Calgary and there was no chance he would circle back to the Flames.

He didn't say there was no chance. He said he didn't anticipate it.

I take Gaudreau's "thinking about circling back on a 7 year deal" comment with a grain of salt though and as just lip service to Flames fans.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Again, he wanted to sign that deal before free agency, at no time did he actually try and circle back to Calgary. BT even stated at his press conference when he announced Gaudreau was going to free agency that he would not be coming back to Calgary and there was no chance he would circle back to the Flames. It never happened. I am not dragging his wife and family into it, that info was later confirmed by other media and reputable insiders including Frank Serravalli. It isn't a secret anymore.

You are dragging his family into this.

Basically saying his wife ruined his life and his family hates her? Confirmed by TMZ Frank? The same guy who had Love as cosch and Lindholm signed?

People can believe what they like I don't care. I trust my information and it matches with what his camp said the shots Treliving took. His dad didn't look very devestated either. I've known a lot about Johnny through people here in Calgary and I can say with 100% confidence that his wife was probably the best thing to happen him and his career.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I’d be looking at Florida and some reuniting for the Panthers to try and bounce that contract.

To Calgary
Bobrovosky + Rodrigues

To Florida
Markstrom + Huberdeau

Flames save 5 years of purgatory with a 10.5 mill contract that just isn’t working and has a chance to never really work with how uncomfortable this situation is becoming for Huby and the Flames. Florida has committed to the their 3 to 5 year window with what they’ve done with their picks and prospect base so adding a proven high end winger back into the fold at the cost of an aging Goaltender with a bloated contract could make sense for them. Adding in Markstrom for Rodrigues is another reunion for the Panthers and makes sense in that the Flames would have to be swapping out a goalie to make this work and adding in Rodrigues while not the most exciting piece adds a filler contract over the next 4 years while the Flames rebuild the core and prep for the new arena.

A lot of reasoning there but if I stand back and consider the trade for both teams it kinda makes some sense. Thoughts?

Think this one through before you post (trying to be constructive)

How do you get all 3 of bobo, Marky and huby to waive their nmc?