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Old 10-25-2023, 04:33 PM   #101
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JFC. This was us exactly, too, except swap breakfast for "Do you guys want to go on the boat? The lake is like glass!" Fk no! You'll kidnap me for 12 hours. Gotta go. Gotta go. Gotta go. That's all I could think. I was laser focused on escape.

I'll let this go now, but maybe we should exchange numbers or something so we can be there for each other if we wake up in a nightmarish sweat or something over this down the road. We're like PTSD party veterans from MacGregor Lake.
Honest question: what the #### is with lake people and their obsession over lakes being “like glass.” Does it just make boating… easier? More enjoyable? Glassier?
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Honest question: what the #### is with lake people and their obsession over lakes being “like glass.” Does it just make boating… easier? More enjoyable? Glassier?
Very calm lakes are a beautiful and calming experience.

Thats why its very common to see comments or pictures from hikers in Kananaskis or Banff to stop and appreciate them as well.

The concept of: "The lake is like glass, lets go boating and fix that" is a whole other attitude entirely...but I'm getting some MacGregor PTSD at the moment and would rather not delve into it.
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Honest question: what the #### is with lake people and their obsession over lakes being “like glass.” Does it just make boating… easier? More enjoyable? Glassier?
For us it was always about being able to cut slalom turns on a ski. Kinda like a fresh powder day. Sure, you can ski in the chop at 2pm, but finding a fresh untouched powder line is always a sweet bonus. Similar to that, except waterskiing in chop really sucks. It's otherworldly when there are no other boats and it is glass calm.
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People who complain about second homes or cabins as a concept being a deprivation of someone having their first home just invariably sound to me like they're upset that things haven't worked out well enough for them in life that they get to be the sort of person who has a cabin. It just never sounds like anything but jealousy.
Do you honestly believe building new homes that are unoccupied 90 per cent of the year has no impact on housing affordability? Or that communities don’t lose something important when half the homes on every street are Airbnbs or owned by absentee landlords?

If I had the money, I’d own a vacation property. No doubt about it. But I wouldn’t pretend it was good for anyone but myself, or that it didn’t have real downsides for the wider society.
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I don't really see anyone suggesting that it is good for anyone except for themselves, and whether it has "real downsides for the wider community" depends on the context of the vacation home in question. But regardless, #### right off telling someone how to live their lives and what to do with their money, particularly when what he's doing is just enjoying it. He's not a foreign investor trying to buy up condos to get rental income or whatever, he just wants a place in the mountains. I'd love one of those myself.

Instead of having a place in Canmore I'm sure Sliver could take cruise every year, or do an African safari every couple of years, or buy an RV and drive it from place to place or a thousand other things with his recreation budget. If he wants to spend his time and money in Canmore, including by having a place to retreat to, that's his business. The fact that others can't do likewise due to their own personal life journey being different from his does not entitle them to shame the guy for trying to get enjoyment out of his life in the way he sees fit.
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Old 10-25-2023, 05:09 PM   #106
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People who complain about second homes or cabins as a concept being a deprivation of someone having their first home just invariably sound to me like they're upset that things haven't worked out well enough for them in life that they get to be the sort of person who has a cabin. It just never sounds like anything but jealousy.
This is just such a shallow, naive, dickish comment.

We live in a world with finite labour and resources.

For some dip#### oligarch to have a massive yacht with two helicopters stashed on it comes at the expense of other things for other people.

Maybe you should go yell at a homeless person to work harder so they can have a yacht and helicopters too.

The wealth gap and housing shortage leaves a lot of people who are hard working and solid people questioning if they will make it until next month with a roof over their head.

How absolutely obtuse of you to suggest that if they look at all the houses sitting empty in a place like Canmore and are a bit irked it's because they are "jealous".

Jesus christ.
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That’s quite the leap to oligarch with a helicopter and yacht
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But yep, Canmore is definitely not what it used to be. And neither is Banff, Cochrane, Calgary or pretty much any place within 2 hours of it. It's progress, for better or worse.
You either live somewhere desirable, in which case it has issues related to growth and affordability, or you live somewhere that isn’t desirable, in which case it may stay the same, or more than likely shrink. It’s the same thing I said to my wife, who within a year of moving to Cochrane, decided that now that we were here, they should stop development and allowing more people until the town “caught up” on building out the infrastructure.

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That’s quite the leap to oligarch with a helicopter and yacht
Yeah if this describes Sliver, then I retract my supp- wait, no, I reiterate my support in even stronger terms, because maybe then he'll send his helicopter to get me and we can hang out on his yacht!

Anyway, my original post wasn't really denying that there are broader ramifications in certain communities for people buying property and then not living in it, it is simply my immediate reaction whenever I see posts that, in effect, try to chastise people for having a vacation place to go to. That GMG. And I can't help but read Bill Bumface's umbrage the same way.

If you're buying up property at scale to hold and flip or rent out at exorbitant rates and thereby driving up rental prices that's one thing, but I'm pretty sure Sliver just wants to pack the car up on Friday and go have a beer on his deck while looking at the mountains. IMO there's nothing the least bit wrong with having that as a life goal, or achieving said life goal, and the busybodies suggesting otherwise... yeah, look, I can't help it. You just seem jealous to me.
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Interesting thread. As a part time resident of Canmore I kind of feel ashamed when I tell people I also live in Calgary. Sometimes I lie just so I won’t have to see people’s angry faces.

I love it there for all the reasons everyone loves it there and I totally supported the Smith Creek and Three Sisters Mountain Village developments because the population is growing (everywhere) and I think more people should be able to enjoy it there. I also liked that both developments had a large percentage of affordable housing. But as the OP noted the residents stopped the two developments that had been carefully planned and permitted with years of engagement THEN two months later were in the news complaining about the doctor shortage because there aren’t enough places to live.
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Back to the original post, I wonder what will happen now. Can TSMV actually go forth and build or are there more legal stops along the way? Either way, I’m happy with this news because I’m happy 20 years ago my place there was built when I’m certain the townsfolk at that time didn’t want it. All of Paris hated the Eiffel Tower while it was being built too and now they’re proud of it. Maybe one day the townsfolk will love the new Swiss alps style village going in.
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In fairness, they usually are run by morons, though.

There's a reason for that. The pool of people interested in being in politics is incredibly small. It's a specific type that likes the "power" of politics, thinks they're the smartest guy in the room, enjoys public speaking, doesn't mind totally wacky hours and likes to glad hand. It's a wild combination of traits that not many people possess. As a result, it's common and expected you end up with a group of similar types of people that don't do a good job. All of those traits that steer somebody into politics have nothing to do with being skilled at running municipalities. Being qualified isn't one of the qualifications for being a politician.

First Lady is always my favourite example of that. She couldn't manage her own family or her own finances, but wanted to be a politician. What a fright, but a typical example.
This is gold. This is exactly what I have always beloved but haven’t been nearly as eloquent.
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It seems pretty well managed when these folks ran Canmore. Maybe you should have kept the wall to keep out the vacation-homers!

So...what you're saying is that we should sign over Canmore to the communists so they can farm sheep amidst the Zombie Apocalypse?

Its a bold proposal, I'll grant you that.
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I don't give a fk about wildlife, so I don't care what this does to them. Hopefully it keeps the bears and cougars away more. I prioritize people over a dumb pack of wolves that can just wander one mountain range over and never see a person again.
I find this funny. Because of you want less wildlife encounters in town then perhaps expanding the town into a wildlife corridor isnt good idea.

Regardless of whether someone is for or against this proposal it will increase Human / Animal conflict in Canmore. So if your goal is too push away bears and cougars then you should oppose this development.
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I find this funny. Because of you want less wildlife encounters in town then perhaps expanding the town into a wildlife corridor isnt good idea.

Regardless of whether someone is for or against this proposal it will increase Human / Animal conflict in Canmore. So if your goal is too push away bears and cougars then you should oppose this development.
Then we should give all Canmore residents guns. Problem solved.
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Then we should give all Canmore residents guns. Problem solved.
Probably help reduce the people population so that’s a plus.
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Then we should give all Canmore residents guns. Problem solved.
I'm pretty sure they already have guns...wasnt there that 'Rabbit Cull' a few years back where they were getting paid to shoot rabbits?

Oh yeah...Canmore...everyone and their mum's got guns in Canmore.
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Then we should give all Canmore residents guns. Problem solved.
Bear bangers as a minimum. When people leave their house they can just shoot them off. Everyone will love it.
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Bear bangers as a minimum. When people leave their house they can just shoot them off. Everyone will love it.
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