60 Things Men Should Know About Women!!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Yeah huh. That's what the calming down process is for.

Take a deep breath and slow down your breathing before you speak. All it takes is a minute or two and not the silent treatment.Trust me, i've been in these situations before.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

What would be so wrong with saying you have a problem you want to talk about and can we discuss it when you get home? You can't expect everyone else to be there for you at the drop of a dime. That's a tad selfish and unfair.

What if you don't work at a job where you can make phonecalls easily, or your spouse can't receive them easily? It's an example. It happens. What if the poop hits the fan at 3:55 and you're off at 4? Typical male, turning this into an "it's all the woman's fault" thing. Why can't you just be there for your spouse when she's had a bad day once in a while? Se;fish and unfair is not caring about your spouses day, and going off and getting hammered instead of asking how her day was first. It doesn't have to be an all night sob fest, she just wants to vent for a bit, and then you can go get drunk.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

Take a deep breath and slow down your breathing before you speak. All it takes is a minute or two and not the silent treatment.Trust me, i've been in these situations before.

I sure hope you try using that line on your spouse one day. "take a deep breath honey, let's talk about this..."

But you're right Dion, it's all the woman's fault for being an emotional basketcase. There's always a good excuse when it comes to the man and his actions, and how dare she ever get upset about anything to the point where she wants to smash her fist through your face and is trying to avoid that. Yeah. She certainly just needs to take a deep breath at that point in time. That'll help.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FireFly

What if you don't work at a job where you can make phonecalls easily, or your spouse can't receive them easily? It's an example. It happens. What if the poop hits the fan at 3:55 and you're off at 4? Typical male, turning this into an "it's all the woman's fault" thing. Why can't you just be there for your spouse when she's had a bad day once in a while? Se;fish and unfair is not caring about your spouses day, and going off and getting hammered instead of asking how her day was first. It doesn't have to be an all night sob fest, she just wants to vent for a bit, and then you can go get drunk.

Who said anything about getting hammered? Aren't you generalising a bit? I find that a tad insulting.

We are there for our spouses. We say how was your day. Sometimes things were planned in advance. And just because we can't talk at that moment does not mean we won't talk with you. It's the controling nature that it has to be discussed then and there that annoys me to no end.

[sadora]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

when asked "what's wrong" why not say "give me a few minutes, I need to calm down before we talk"?

Then we as logical and rational creatures think "something's wrong and she needs a few minutes to calm down" as opposed to "nothing"

You know, just asking

I don't know why women do this nor do I like it. But you have to know that they mean "something" when they say "nothing"...
My automatic resonse when a girl says this to me is to give her some space and either make her some tea or something stronger, then come back with said drink and ask her "do you want to talk about it?"

Sometimes nothing does mean nothing too...it all comes down to the tone of how they say it.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by sadora

I don't know why women do this nor do I like it. But you have to know that they mean "something" when they say "nothing"...
My automatic resonse when a girl says this to me is to give her some space and either make her some tea or something stronger, then come back with said drink and ask her "do you want to talk about it?"

Sometimes nothing does mean nothing too...it all comes down to the tone of how they say it.

Ah, someone who gets it!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FireFly

I sure hope you try using that line on your spouse one day. "take a deep breath honey, let's talk about this..."

Do you always get this sarcastic with you boyfriend/spouse?

But you're right Dion, it's all the woman's fault for being an emotional basketcase. There's always a good excuse when it comes to the man and his actions, and how dare she ever get upset about anything to the point where she wants to smash her fist through your face and is trying to avoid that. Yeah. She certainly just needs to take a deep breath at that point in time. That'll help.

All the womans fault? It takes two to fight and argue. When I say I speak from experience, I don't let my emotions get the best of me when confronting an issue. I realise the harm that comes that.

If she wants to smash her fist through my face then I would suggest she take some courses in anger management.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

Who said anything about getting hammered? Aren't you generalising a bit? I find that a tad insulting.

We are there for our spouses. We say how was your day. Sometimes things were planned in advance. And just because we can't talk at that moment does not mean we won't talk with you. It's the controling nature that it has to be discussed then and there that annoys me to no end.

Well, that wasn't my example though. We know you have plans, but you can't delay them for half an hour so a person doesn't have a mental breakdown? Sometimes it needs to be discussed right now, and sometimes it doesn't. When it does, and you ditch anyways, that would make a girl wanna cry. As per my original example.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

Do you always get this sarcastic with you boyfriend/spouse?

Well I don't have one right now, but yes... I am rather sarcastic.

All the womans fault? It takes two to fight and argue. When I say I speak from experience, I don't let my emotions get the best of me when confronting an issue. I realise the harm that comes that.

If she wants to smash her fist through my face then I would suggest she take some courses in anger management.

You have taken my example way off course, and that has led us to this place. The woman in my example did not want to fight, she wants a shoulder to lean on, and the man ditched her to hang out with his buddies instead, without asking how her day was first. The original question is what would make a female so upset she would cry. If I'm upset already, and my man doesn't even care enough to ask how my day was, I'm probably going to cry.

And anger management is the part where she doesn't smash her fist through your face, she walks away telling you "nothing" is wrong. It's also an anger management technique. If you were to press the issue at that exact moment, it becomes an argument. If you let her calm down, then you can have a discussion, without so much emotion.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Ah, someone who gets it!

oh I get it, I just don't see why you can't be more straight forward

I "get it" I just don't understand why I have to

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Well, that wasn't my example though. We know you have plans, but you can't delay them for half an hour so a person doesn't have a mental breakdown? Sometimes it needs to be discussed right now, and sometimes it doesn't. When it does, and you ditch anyways, that would make a girl wanna cry. As per my original example.

If it wasn't your example, why use it?

If she's having a mental breakdown then of course things get delayed.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

oh I get it, I just don't see why you can't be more straight forward

I "get it" I just don't understand why I have to

Has to do with emotions and feelings and not being able to communicate properly when we're upset.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

oh I get it, I just don't see why you can't be more straight forward

I "get it" I just don't understand why I have to

That's exactly the BS I won't put up with!

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

If it wasn't your example, why use it?

If she's having a mental breakdown then of course things get delayed.

You're the one who used it, not I. You changed my example to suit your own purposes.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Well, that wasn't my example though. We know you have plans, but you can't delay them for half an hour so a person doesn't have a mental breakdown? Sometimes it needs to be discussed right now, and sometimes it doesn't. When it does, and you ditch anyways, that would make a girl wanna cry. As per my original example.

I don't mean to sound like a bitter old man but . . . guys that do that are rejected when they ask girls out.

Another thing about women, what you SAY you want and what you REALLY want are two different things.


(and I don't mean you specifically FireFly, you seem cool, despite what's going on in this thread, I think both genders are playing the rash generalizations out)

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FireFly

You're the one who used it, not I. You changed my example to suit your own purposes.

Nope. You're the one who raised the getting drunk issue.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Dion

Nope. You're the one who raised the getting drunk issue.

Apparently I need to spell things out for you. When I said "that wasn't my example" I was not talking about the drunkenness, I was talking about the other plans and the asking how your day was. Whether or not you're going to get drunk with your buddies when you go out with them is irrelevant to my example. In my example, the guy came home, said "I'm leaving" and left. There was no stopping to ask how the day was, as was in your explaination.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I don't mean to sound like a bitter old man but . . . guys that do that are rejected when they ask girls out.

Another thing about women, what you SAY you want and what you REALLY want are two different things.


(and I don't mean you specifically FireFly, you seem cool, despite what's going on in this thread, I think both genders are playing the rash generalizations out)

Well who are they asking out? If you're a male, and I'm using you as a shoulder to cry on, you'd better believe you're on my friend ladder, in which case, yeah, you're likely going to get rejected when you ask me out. Why are you allowing girls to cry on your shoulder if you aren't dating and you want to?

That depends on what it is I'm talking about... if I want a 3 carat rock, and you can't afford it, yeah I'm gonna lie about it. Duh. I don't want you to feel bad that you can't afford what I really want. Besides, what I really want is YOU, and it doesn't really matter what the rock looks like. (Not you specifically Q, just generalizing here with an extreme example.)

Again, we do these things with the best intentions. (Mostly) It's not a game, we're trying to spare everyone involved undue stress or anger or whatever.

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Your feelings are gay.

Seriously, that has to be the biggest pile of horsecrap I've ever read. We're men, not psychics. We don't play that same kind of crap with you. That's got to be one of the most self-centered things I've ever seen and I rarely put up with chicks who pull that kind of garbage.

I'm just adding to the list of things you should know about women. If you don't want to put up with it, that's your choice.

Seriously, though, women are emotional creatures - not logical. If you don't respect a girl's feelings, the way you expect her to respect your logic, any relationship will be short lived.

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, I know. I was more referring to the OP. The only chicks who don't seem to get this are the clingers.

I'm not clingy. I'm exceedingly independant. Sometimes, to the point that it alienates my husband because there never seems to be a time that he "needs" to take care of me. The only thing I ask from him is to listen and be try to be understanding when I vent - particularily when it pertains to him. Even if he doesn't agree, it's nice when he manages to put himself in my shoes and be sympathetic.

Originally Posted by peter12

Yeah, that's why you're single. I thought that was pretty good advice.

Thank-you. That's why I offered it.

Originally Posted by rubecube

That and, as explained extensively by the ladder theory, girls don't want to sleep with the guys they talk about their feelings with.

I sleep with my husband regularily. He listens though he doesn't get it and, although we have difficult issues to work through, I try not to bring them into the bedroom. There is nothing unmanly about a man that listens.

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

totally..those are just the mind games they play..

It's not a mind game. It's an emotional appeal for someone we care about to listen and show us that they care about us in return.

[I_H8_Crawford]

If a woman is on the verge of a mental breakdown because of one bad day at work, I don't think a guy delaying his plans for 30 mins is going to help...

Want to get a guy to stop saying "I Guess So" to your suggestions? Try this simple add-on: "and you get a BJ after" It works - "What do you say we hit up Ikea, buy some furniture and you get a BJ after." If a guy still says "I guess so" Dump his ass because he is gay.