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Old 10-18-2023, 10:17 AM   #2121
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Absolutely no way people could camp out and sleep in their cars while waiting..
But it wouldn't be near 500.
I can't remember where I read it this morning, but I saw the deathtoll may be closer to 30-40.
Pretty massive difference and hopefully more accurate.
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:17 AM   #2122
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:17 AM   #2123
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Anti-social media is going to be the end of our civilization, I swear.
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:32 AM   #2124
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What did he say that was problematic? It still holds true right now.

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Are you talking about what Justin Trudeau said?
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:37 AM   #2125
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Yeah, this is a big problem. With the news cycle now happening in real-time, the terminally online expect an immediate response (‘this happened four hours ago - what are they waiting for!?”). The credibility of both news and official response to news suffers.
In the process, misinformation is pushed by our PM, and repeated by reporters who otherwise would be viewed as a reliable source.
Fog of war is a bitch, but you would hope our govt would be informed from intelligence agencies as to what's happening. If not, if there is no concrete evidence, shut up. This, as you say, hurts everyone's credibility which is especially damning during a time when said officials and media are banging the "media literacy" drum.
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:38 AM   #2126
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It's a weird recording.

1. The two guys aren't talking in a typical Gazan dialect.
2. They sound like bumbling idiots.

I don't know and I won't weigh in because I think there's a possibility that either side is correct.
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Old 10-18-2023, 10:54 AM   #2127
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Are you talking about what Justin Trudeau said?
Yes. I don't see the reason why people are pointing at Trudeau for spreading false information (other than the typical irrational Trudeau hatred).

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Old 10-18-2023, 10:57 AM   #2128
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Yes. I don't see the reason why people are pointing at Trudeau for spreading false information (other than the typical irrational Trudeau hatred).

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Maybe because people expect our leaders to have some critical thinking skills and a measured response after looking at all the details/facts before spitting out a judgement?
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Maybe because people expect our leaders to have some critical thinking skills and a measured response after looking at all the details/facts before spitting out a judgement?
What did Trudeau say about the blast that makes you think he lacks critical thinking skills, or that it wasn't a measured response?

Where is all this coming from?

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Old 10-18-2023, 11:10 AM   #2130
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The ironic thing is Hamas actually did bomb an Israeli hospital several days ago with very little news coverage, where was the condemnation?

https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/s/Bk8qaiO7X8
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I skipped a few pages. What did Trudeau say that was so terrible?
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Old 10-18-2023, 11:13 AM   #2132
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I skipped a few pages. What did Trudeau say that was so terrible?
everything and nothing all at once
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Old 10-18-2023, 11:16 AM   #2133
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This is the only tweet of his that I’ve seen that mentions the hospital bombing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1714475152392536503
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Basically Trudeau insinuated it was Israel who bombed the hospital. As it turns out, it was not Israel. Spreading some misinformation.


https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/10/...pital-bombing/

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Earlier in the day, Trudeau called the situation “absolutely unacceptable.” Speaking in French, he told reporters that “it’s not legal” to bomb a hospital.

“The news coming out of Gaza is horrific,” the prime minister said.

“International humanitarian and international law needs to be respected in this and in all cases. There are rules around wars and it’s not acceptable to hit a hospital.”
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This is the only tweet of his that I’ve seen that mentions the hospital bombing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1714475152392536503
In the mind of a right winger, he should resign over such an egregious statement.
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In the mind of a right winger, he should resign over such an egregious statement.
In the mind of an world leader he should wait to get all the facts.
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If that was it, then I should think this provides even more credibility to the pro-Israeli side. Democratic pro-Israeli government leaders like Trudeau will not shy away from condemning an egregious attack even with the possibility still lingering that it could have been caused by their own team.

Israel has demonstrated that they will go out of their way to prove that they would not sink to the level of their evil terrorist enemy who evidently have no qualms about putting civilians in harms way.

Israel has to eliminate Hamas. They are demonstrating (albeit with pressure from Biden) that they are working to keep civilians out of harms way while they work to eliminate Hamas.

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In the mind of an world leader he should wait to get all the facts.
lol, did you read the tweet? It seems you agree with him.
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lol, did you read the tweet? It seems you agree with him.
Did you hear what he said in the House of Commons? Def was pointing at one side.

https://beta.cp24.com/news/2023/10/17/1_6605204.html

“Earlier in the day, Trudeau called the situation “absolutely unacceptable.” Speaking in French, he told reporters that “it's not legal” to bomb a hospital.“The news coming out of Gaza is horrific,” the prime minister said.“International humanitarian and international law needs to be respected in this and in all cases. There are rules around wars and it's not acceptable to hit a hospital.”

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Old 10-18-2023, 11:43 AM   #2140
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lol, did you read the tweet? It seems you agree with him.
It wasn't his tweet, see a couple posts about about his speech.
There's other communication channels than Twitter or X or whatever.
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