[PGT] Calgary Flames 2 Washington Capitals 3 (OTL - Shootout)

[redmile04]

Extra time loss, pointless Huberdeau, bad goal Markstrom, outshot opponents and lost.. why even fire Sutter? Nothing has changed.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This has gotta get figured out

https://twitter.com/user/status/1714101514330116528

Honeslty don't think he was as bad as those cherry picked plays would make it seem. Any play can look bad if you pick 5 or 6 bad plays out of a game.

The 2-1 play was bad...but outside of that I see lots of plays where he's throwing the puck into an open area where he's expecting guys to move into it or where he's passed the puck when a defender is already right on him.

One thing that's been an issue with this team for 3 seasons now (outside of the top line in 21-22) is that they are very stationary in the offensive zone.

You need to move to the open areas to create space and Flames are terrible at that at times.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

second guessing the shootout lineup is kinda dumb
2 guys hit the post, the other was the Flames best last season

1 player out of 6 scored in the shootout

If you want to be mad be mad they didn't put the game away earlier

I mean do you really think Mangiapane or someone was a sure bet? he is just as likely to fall down on this way to the net.

I would definitely take that bet.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by camm13

2 shootout goals between the 3 of them....the 2 by Lindholm in Carolina 2014/15

Context is important here. How many shootout attempts has Coronato taken? Or even Mangiapane?

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It's pretty clear to me, given that Conroy is trying to re-sign Lindholm, that these calls are being made from the very top.

i like Lindholm but an 8 year deal around 9.5 M is not that apppealing. you see al the other teams signing their players to 8 year deals, difference is they are early 20's not 30. Such a sad franchise. I do like Conroy and want him to succeed but BT screwed this team for at least 5 years,

[SeanCharles]

I don’t mind Huberdeau or Sharangovich in the shootout.

Ruzicka actually looks like the most poised on the PP right now. Hopefully he keeps it up and continues to earn the more ice-time.

I think Sharangovich needs a bit more time before we can fully judge him. I think he will earn his way up the lineup soon enough.

The lines don’t seem to have a lot of chemistry. Need to work on making adjustments.

PP in general was frustrating. A legit PP QB would go a long way to improve things.

Don’t like Kadri in any shape or form.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Extra time loss, pointless Huberdeau, bad goal Markstrom, outshot opponents and lost.. why even fire Sutter? Nothing has changed.

It is only been it 3 games. They have a good group of guys they just have to put it together. If any of those guys scored or won in overtime we wouldn't be talking about this loss.

The team played better overall and played a little closer to 60 minutes. We just need to take advantage of our opportunities.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by AC

I honestly find it to be a toxic fanbase now. I've largely become indifferent to the team, but so many here actively hate the team top to bottom and post non-stop about it. Every topic turns to bitching about the team/players/GMs/coaches, past and present.

It just makes participating here a less enjoyable experience. I guess it's unreasonable to expect positivity, but I'm surprised how many posters post ad nauseam about how much they don't like watching the team. The solution appears to be so obvious...

It's because many don't really like this team in its current iteration. Guys like gaudreau, chucky and monahan were much easier to cheer for because we saw them begin and grow their careers here.

Kadri and hubrdeau are playing like mercenaries on their retirement contracts. They signed here because we paid the most and fans can tell by their play.
I dont want to watch these guys coast for the next decade.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

i like Lindholm but an 8 year deal around 9.5 M is not that apppealing. you see al the other teams signing their players to 8 year deals, difference is they are early 20's not 30. Such a sad franchise. I do like Conroy and want him to succeed but BT screwed this team for at least 5 years,

From what I have heard the Flames are not going over $9M AAV. If Lindholm won't budge I expect he will get traded eventually.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'd feel pretty good about andersson, sharangovich, coronato

I'll give Huska a little credit for not using Backlund. But if they went to a fourth round, who knows he might've.

Edit: Ruzicka would've also been a good pick given the game he had.

[Reggie Dunlop]

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[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Honeslty don't think he was as bad as those cherry picked plays would make it seem. Any play can look bad if you pick 5 or 6 bad plays out of a game.

The 2-1 play was bad...but outside of that I see lots of plays where he's throwing the puck into an open area where he's expecting guys to move into it or where he's passed the puck when a defender is already right on him.

One thing that's been an issue with this team for 3 seasons now (outside of the top line in 21-22) is that they are very stationary in the offensive zone.

You need to move to the open areas to create space and Flames are terrible at that at times.

I feel like we are applauding Huberdeau for very basic hockey plays when we need an elite player that creates something out of nothing. If Huberdeau can't be that, then the Flames are just fooling themselves trying to compete with this roster.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Honeslty don't think he was as bad as those cherry picked plays would make it seem. Any play can look bad if you pick 5 or 6 bad plays out of a game.

The 2-1 play was bad...but outside of that I see lots of plays where he's throwing the puck into an open area where he's expecting guys to move into it or where he's passed the puck when a defender is already right on him.

One thing that's been an issue with this team for 3 seasons now (outside of the top line in 21-22) is that they are very stationary in the offensive zone.

You need to move to the open areas to create space and Flames are terrible at that at times.

His Completion % is horrendous.

Simply not converting enough of these chances. .

I know a guy, who converted a lot more often than not.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

i like Lindholm but an 8 year deal around 9.5 M is not that apppealing. you see al the other teams signing their players to 8 year deals, difference is they are early 20's not 30. Such a sad franchise. I do like Conroy and want him to succeed but BT screwed this team for at least 5 years,

How many years did we spend trying to find a top line C? They are incredibly rare outside of the top spots in the draft. I expect 31 other NHL GMs would be trying to extend Lindholm if in Conroy shoes.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by traptor

It's because many don't really like this team in its current iteration. Guys like gaudreau, chucky and monahan were much easier to cheer for because we saw them begin and grow their careers here.

Kadri and hubrdeau are playing like mercenaries on their retirement contracts. They signed here because we paid the most and fans can tell by their play.
I dont want to watch these guys coast for the next decade.

I don't see Huby coasting, he is a guy that works hard and clearly wants to win. He is the opposite of Kadri who has won and now floats around on his retirement deal. Remember when Kadri was on Toronto and Colorado and he was such an annoying prick to play against?? I can't remember seeing that once since coming here. Not fn once. He is just tuned out.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by AC

I honestly find it to be a toxic fanbase now. I've largely become indifferent to the team, but so many here actively hate the team top to bottom and post non-stop about it. Every topic turns to bitching about the team/players/GMs/coaches, past and present.

It just makes participating here a less enjoyable experience. I guess it's unreasonable to expect positivity, but I'm surprised how many posters post ad nauseam about how much they don't like watching the team. The solution appears to be so obvious...

I'm wondering as well why I even bother with PGTs after a loss. Not a lot of discussion. More just a thread to vent about the same old stuff.

It's Game 3. And the team is 1-1-1. Can't tell at all by this thread.

[Yeah_Baby]

Nm

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm wondering as well why I even bother with PGTs after a loss. Not a lot of discussion. More just a thread to vent about the same old stuff.

It's Game 3. And the team is 1-1-1. Can't tell at all by this thread.

1-1-1 in three games in which they had a lead.

What did we say about how changing the outcome of a couple of those 17 OT/SO losses last season could've got them into the playoffs? We're already siphoning those points away early.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

From what I have heard the Flames are not going over $9M AAV. If Lindholm won't budge I expect he will get traded eventually.

If it is not about money I wonder if there's a team he wants to go to. He seems to be holding up for a reason. Maybe he wants to play with Johnny or something or just wants to go to the States. Obviously the Flames haven't got good offers for him or they would have done something.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm wondering as well why I even bother with PGTs after a loss. Not a lot of discussion. More just a thread to vent about the same old stuff.

It's Game 3. And the team is 1-1-1. Can't tell at all by this thread.

I actually agree and myself included went too Debbie Downer tonight. It was just this game, that weak goal that was the deciding goal, Kadri being an idiot and not giving a F, just drags you down. I still have hope though dammit.