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Old 10-11-2023, 09:54 PM   #541
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I'm surprised Costas is only 71. He doesn't sound or look much different then he did hosting NFL 85 on NBC nearly 40 years ago.
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Old 10-11-2023, 10:01 PM   #542
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LOL Dodgers. Only one championship for all that $, and it was the fake Covid WS in an empty stadium. #SweepLA
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Old 10-11-2023, 10:31 PM   #543
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Old 10-12-2023, 06:23 AM   #544
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One Phillies win away from every 100 win team being punted in the first round, and three of the four have already been swept.
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Old 10-12-2023, 08:04 AM   #545
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Quick side thought. Whatever team pays $600M for Ohtani, is going to be making the biggest mistake. He’s got a few years left of playing both positions before he chooses one, but for the duration of the contract he will be paid for both. With both NY teams failing miserably and now LA and San Diego bowing early there will be incredible pressure for them to make the deal. Can’t wait to see it tie them up for years to come.
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Old 10-12-2023, 08:34 AM   #546
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Quick side thought. Whatever team pays $600M for Ohtani, is going to be making the biggest mistake. He’s got a few years left of playing both positions before he chooses one, but for the duration of the contract he will be paid for both. With both NY teams failing miserably and now LA and San Diego bowing early there will be incredible pressure for them to make the deal. Can’t wait to see it tie them up for years to come.
I don't think he's getting $600MM guaranteed money after a season ending injury requiring elbow surgery where the plan is he only hits next season and can't pitch until 2025. The scenario where he never pitches again is a big risk, imo.
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Old 10-12-2023, 10:10 AM   #547
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The thing about Ohtani is you pretty much cannot overpay him because of how much you'll get back in the marketing aspects. Even though he will obviously not be as great as he's been forever, he's still the biggest star in the sport, by far, and he has a market of 125 million people basically to himself.
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Old 10-12-2023, 10:45 AM   #548
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LOL Dodgers. Only one championship for all that $, and it was the fake Covid WS in an empty stadium. #SweepLA
There was a time when Dodgers were known for developing talent but now they seem largely to be a team of mercenaries.

Teams like the Phillies and Rangers are still alive, and their teams are largely built through big money UFA signings so I guess it works sometimes.
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Old 10-12-2023, 11:13 AM   #549
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The thing about Ohtani is you pretty much cannot overpay him because of how much you'll get back in the marketing aspects. Even though he will obviously not be as great as he's been forever, he's still the biggest star in the sport, by far, and he has a market of 125 million people basically to himself.
How does the $$$ aspect of jersey sales work in MLB? Is it distributed among teams or kept in the home teams’ coffers?
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Old 10-12-2023, 11:32 AM   #550
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Out of the international free agents that Houston signed in 2015, included were Valdez, Javier and Urquidy. All 19ish years old. That's hitting the jackpot.
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LOL Dodgers. Only one championship for all that $, and it was the fake Covid WS in an empty stadium. #SweepLA
Haters gonna hate.

Pretty tough to win when your aces are hurt or in jail or kicked out of the league, etc, etc.
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The thing about Ohtani is you pretty much cannot overpay him because of how much you'll get back in the marketing aspects. Even though he will obviously not be as great as he's been forever, he's still the biggest star in the sport, by far, and he has a market of 125 million people basically to himself.
A big chunk of the extra ticket sales are distributed, it doesn't all go to the home team. And I doubt the extra marketing is worth more than a few million per year.

The biggest risk is the pitching. Take the Jays - they have both Ryu (starting pitcher) and Belt (DH) coming off contract this year, for a combined total of just under $30 MM.

Ohtani is a better pitcher than Ryu and a better hitter than Belt, so you could reasonably pay more than that $30 MM. Say that upgrade is worth $7.5 MM each way and now you're at $45 MM, plus something for extra tickets/endorsements and you can see where the $50MM/year baseline was coming from, and $60 MM seems possible.

But if he's just a hitter maybe you're looking at Mookie Betts type money and he's only worth $30 MM. So it's a big risk to sign him long term assuming he plays both ways.

I think if he wants the $60MM/year some of the later years are going to need to be team options to keep the risk down (lower guaranteed money) or if he wants the security of perpetual intergenerational wealth maybe he can get $300-400 MM over 9-10 years, figuring on many of those being DH only.
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Old 10-12-2023, 06:25 PM   #553
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Pretty tough to win when your aces are hurt or in jail or kicked out of the league, etc, etc.
Rangers seem to be doing ok at it.

That said I'm terrified of the Astros.

If it wasn't the fact I have been a die-hard Rangers fan for decades, I'll let Dustin Nickerson explain why you shouldn't be cheering for Houston:

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Yeah, they're looking solid. But hate Philly the city and Philly fans. Hope Kimbrel blows it here. Go AA!
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Yeah, they're looking solid. But hate Philly the city and Philly fans. Hope Kimbrel blows it here. Go AA!
I like AA but hate the tomahawk chop.
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Harper is a hard to like guy. Loves the drama.
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