Random Thought Thread v2

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What is the point of the crease on a soccer pitch?

I don’t follow soccer and don’t know the rules, but I imagine it could help the goalie to know exactly where the net is without looking behind them. Maybe.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t follow soccer and don’t know the rules, but I imagine it could help the goalie to know exactly where the net is without looking behind them. Maybe.

Maybe, but it's much larger than the width of the net.

The Box makes sense, its the area in which the keeper can use their hands.

Just seems odd.

I was in Kamloops at a 7's tournament and walked across a soccer pitch a few times and it struck me a odd.

[Fuzz]

I know nothing about soccer, but this tells me it's for goal kicks:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_kick

[White Out 403]

if IKEA is good enough for Zlatan its good enough for me

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Maybe, but it's much larger than the width of the net.

The Box makes sense, its the area in which the keeper can use their hands.

Just seems odd.

I was in Kamloops at a 7's tournament and walked across a soccer pitch a few times and it struck me a odd.

It is similar to a hockey crease in that the goalie is allowed their space there. If for example a goalie bodies a player out of the way to make a move on the ball.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It is similar to a hockey crease in that the goalie is allowed their space there. If for example a goalie bodies a player out of the way to make a move on the ball.

But in the "great box" players can body a goalie out of the way to make a move on the ball?

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Awesome.

The other thing with Ikea furniture is it's easy AF to assemble and really nice for the price. The packaging is genius and the instructions are remarkable - all diagrams with no text. Plus it's soooo easy - although time consuming on some pieces - to put together.

IKEA strugglers are the dumbest of the dumb, but they sure are a loud bunch.

A significant amount of solutions to those who struggle with IKEA furniture or any furniture in general literally is... "Follow the god damn instructions".

The amount of people of all ages who try and assemble IKEA and other furniture by eyeballing it without following the instructions... too damn high.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Maybe, but it's much larger than the width of the net.

The Box makes sense, its the area in which the keeper can use their hands.

Just seems odd.

I was in Kamloops at a 7's tournament and walked across a soccer pitch a few times and it struck me a odd.

The box limits the things you can do in there. I believe the keeper can pick up the ball in there, but not hold the ball outside of that box. Also, if you commit a handball or certain fouls in the box, I think it's an automatic penalty kick vs a free kick?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

A significant amount of solutions to those who struggle with IKEA furniture or any furniture in general literally is... "Follow the god damn instructions".

The amount of people of all ages who try and assemble IKEA and other furniture by eyeballing it without following the instructions... too damn high.

IKEA’s problem though is how you need to take a ruler to verify in the instructions if they used a 5mm long screw or the 6mm long screw in a diagram, cause if you used the 6mm instead of the 5mm, your bookshelf is going to collapse and probably explode. And by the time you realize you had just been using them interchangeably and something isn’t quite fitting right, you have to disassemble a lot of your work.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

But in the "great box" players can body a goalie out of the way to make a move on the ball?

No, Everyone has no make a play that touches the ball first in every other instance.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Wormius

IKEA’s problem though is how you need to take a ruler to verify in the instructions if they used a 5mm long screw or the 6mm long screw in a diagram, cause if you used the 6mm instead of the 5mm, your bookshelf is going to collapse and probably explode. And by the time you realize you had just been using them interchangeably and something isn’t quite fitting right, you have to disassemble a lot of your work.

And... isn't that on the early pages of the instructions and aren't you able to just put the assembly piece on that page to keep track? Or just align them there and remember to check long vs short.

If I notice there's more than 1 type of bolt or screw that's different in length, I'll take special care to double check before using a bolt. Am I also the only person who rips off the pages showing what in included in the box to easily verify pieces between steps? No one is archiving those instructions and just throws them out/recycles them, right? Rip it apart.

I've been laughed at or chided for taking too long at times but the consensus is that I've assembled enough of these things quickly and accurately at a higher rate than the people making fun of me. I mean, it seems blatantly obvious to me that following the instructions reduces rework time, weakening of the assembly points, reduces chances of damage and incorrect assembly of the item. Lots of people create their own problem by not following instructions and they do it so often that it's mind bogglingly contradictory IMO. What is it that causes people to do this and ignore easy instructions? Ego? Impatience?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What is the point of the crease on a soccer pitch?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_pitch

Read the section on Penalty and goal areas.
It explains what you're looking for.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

And... isn't that on the early pages of the instructions and aren't you able to just put the assembly piece on that page to keep track? Or just align them there and remember to check long vs short.

If I notice there's more than 1 type of bolt or screw that's different in length, I'll take special care to double check before using a bolt. Am I also the only person who rips off the pages showing what in included in the box to easily verify pieces between steps? No one is archiving those instructions and just throws them out/recycles them, right? Rip it apart.

I've been laughed at or chided for taking too long at times but the consensus is that I've assembled enough of these things quickly and accurately at a higher rate than the people making fun of me. I mean, it seems blatantly obvious to me that following the instructions reduces rework time, weakening of the assembly points, reduces chances of damage and incorrect assembly of the item. Lots of people create their own problem by not following instructions and they do it so often that it's mind bogglingly contradictory IMO. What is it that causes people to do this and ignore easy instructions? Ego? Impatience?

It’s because it is a very IKEA thing to do. It doesn’t cost more in print to have a proper call-out to the part on the diagram. I bet you didn’t have to go through that rigamarole before you encountered your first piece of IKEA furniture. Obviously though once you know this is how IKEA puts together their manuals, you don’t make the mistake again, but I bet everyone has made the mistake the first time assembling something with 8 long dowels and 8 not-as-long dowels and 8 short dowels.

I mean, I guess it’s part of IKEA’s charm in a way that if you missed some slightly beveled edge in the diagram, you’re having to go back and rework it.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Wormius

It’s because it is a very IKEA thing to do. It doesn’t cost more in print to have a proper call-out to the part on the diagram. I bet you didn’t have to go through that rigamarole before you encountered your first piece of IKEA furniture. Obviously though once you know this is how IKEA puts together their manuals, you don’t make the mistake again, but I bet everyone has made the mistake the first time assembling something with 8 long dowels and 8 not-as-long dowels and 8 short dowels.

I mean, I guess it’s part of IKEA’s charm in a way that if you missed some slightly beveled edge in the diagram, you’re having to go back and rework it.

I get your point, but I think I learned my lesson with some insane adventures of confusing instructions and errors in manufacturing with certain items from different brands like Jysk and Wayfair. Perhaps that's why I don't fully understand the IKEA struggles that some people. It feels more like doing it wrong intentionally (by ignoring instructions) and then having a quitters mentality.

IKEA has also typically been pretty good with having slightly different size pieces as much as possible so that you are more likely to notice a wrong piece in the wrong place vs other brands. IKEA is a cakewalk and always has been in comparison to other brands IMO. To make it even easier, you can also Youtube video instructions for basically any piece of IKEA furniture if you hate the instructions.

Or maybe I grew up with enough carpenters and handymen whose detailed instructions were basically, "Look at the object, figure out what types of pieces and shapes you need and do that... TA DAH! Birdhouse." The only instructions I basically received were how to measure and how to not to maim myself on shop equipment.

[OutOfTheCube]

Not sure if they still are, but last time I built Ikea the pictures of screws and dowels and crap were to scale. So you could just hold the screw up to the picture on the page to make sure it was the right one.

Just a pro-tip, if that's still the case.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Not sure if they still are, but last time I built Ikea the pictures of screws and dowels and crap were to scale. So you could just hold the screw up to the picture on the page to make sure it was the right one.

Just a pro-tip, if that's still the case.

I'm almost certain that if there are two similar but differently sized pieces, the instructions show the correct part circled and the incorrect one struck through.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I’m not sure I’ve heard a single person in real life complain about IKEA furniture. It’s like a hacky standup bit at most.

[mrkajz44]

Yeah, if you are in any way struggling with IKEA furniture instructions and assembly, the problem is always you and not the instructions. They easily have the easiest instructions on the planet. I assemble other things and marvel at how bad those instructions are compared to IKEA.

[undercoverbrother]

What bothers me about IKEA furniture is if you ever have to move if from the location you have originally put it.

IE: moving, it never goes back together the same way

Also, when moving it around the house or room for painting or deep clean it always feels on the verge of falling apart.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What bothers me about IKEA furniture is if you ever have to move if from the location you have originally put it.

IE: moving, it never goes back together the same way

Also, when moving it around the house or room for painting or deep clean it always feels on the verge of falling apart.

Ikea furniture is mostly one time use. They are fine if you don't move them.