2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Both parties probably love it. Getting paid and cap space.

It was great for Smith because he was getting paid to not be in Edmonton at the end of his career but Murray is still only 29 and it’s not going to be good for his chances of getting another NHL deal.

[The Original FFIV]

Talk on hfboards that eric engels/Chris Johnston are linking petry to Dallas/Detroit/Buffalo. Have to hope that doesn’t screw up the market more for hanifin. Different players I know, but if someone offers you an upgrade on what you have at a discount vs paying a premium for a better player (and costs less cap wise), that could set us back further.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Talk on hfboards that eric engels/Chris Johnston are linking petry to Dallas/Detroit/Buffalo. Have to hope that doesn’t screw up the market more for hanifin. Different players I know, but if someone offers you an upgrade on what you have at a discount vs paying a premium for a better player (and costs less cap wise), that could set us back further.

Unfortunately, it seems like alternate defence options keep coming available for these teams. Just when I think all the other options are gone (Dumba, Karlsson, etc.), other players become available. Even if the alternate defensemen are not as good as Hanifin, they will no doubt be a cheaper option to acquire. It may take the pressure of the TDL and the security teams will have in their position by that time to pay a higher price and get the trade for Hanifin done.


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[memphusk]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It was great for Smith because he was getting paid to not be in Edmonton at the end of his career but Murray is still only 29 and it’s not going to be good for his chances of getting another NHL deal.

He's an Elliot now anyways. He probably gets it.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It has gotten way too easy to LTIR a guy for a whole season, who was healthy enough to be the backup in playoffs at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It was great for Smith because he was getting paid to not be in Edmonton at the end of his career but Murray is still only 29 and it’s not going to be good for his chances of getting another NHL deal.

The reality is they had no one else better than a Zamboni driver available. Due to poor cap management.

Murray probably isn’t looking for another contract anyway… might as well put a concussion countdown up on the scoreboard. Guy needs to be thinking quality of life now.

[Sandman]

Nhltraderumors claims that the Wild have entered the sweepstakes to land Hanifin. Can't really see it happening, as the Wild have a ton of dead cap space this year and next from the Parise/Suter buyouts- unless we took contracts back.

They do have some interesting youngsters though- C Marco Rossi, C Riley Heidt, C/RW Charlie Stramel, C/LW Rasmus Kumpalainen, G Jesper Wallstedt, D Brock Faber, RW Danila Yurov, LW Liam Ohgren, D Carson Lambos, LW Adam Beckman, and there's been talk of Minny perhaps wanting to move D Calen Addison.

[InternationalVillager]

Flames will not be trading a major player before the season starts. It’s August 12 and the closer we get to September, the more this certainty moves from 95%ish in my mind towards 100.

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Weegar
Zadorov-Tanev

You bet Conroy is sitting in his office looking at the white board willing to give this team a chance to prove themselves.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Nhltraderumors claims that the Wild have entered the sweepstakes to land Hanifin. Can't really see it happening, as the Wild have a ton of dead cap space this year and next from the Parise/Suter buyouts- unless we took contracts back.

They do have some interesting youngsters though- C Marco Rossi, C Riley Heidt, C/RW Charlie Stramel, C/LW Rasmus Kumpalainen, G Jesper Wallstedt, D Brock Faber, RW Danila Yurov, LW Liam Ohgren, D Carson Lambos, LW Adam Beckman, and there's been talk of Minny perhaps wanting to move D Calen Addison.

Well, basically any deal for Lindholm or Hanifin will see us taking something close to equal cap space back, that's just how NHL trades have to work now a days, it wouldn't be unique to a Minnesota deal.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Flames will not be trading a major player before the season starts. It’s August 12 and the closer we get to September, the more this certainty moves from 95%ish in my mind towards 100.

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Weegar
Zadorov-Tanev

You bet Conroy is sitting in his office looking at the white board willing to give this team a chance to prove themselves.

I don't buy that. Conroy was very up front and honest about what he's attempting to do. I think it's very clear the bottomed out trade market is what has held back deals, and not the approaching season or contemplating if we just run it back with 5 expiring UFA's.

If we enter the season without another trade it will be because the right deal was not available yet, not because Conroy looked at a calendar and went "meh, she's gettin late, may as well shut the phone lines down and give up on my plan".

[Erick Estrada]

I'm not worried about the lack of deals. The trade deadline will be fruitful for the Flames.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not worried about the lack of deals. The trade deadline will be fruitful for the Flames.

I agree

Even if flames are in a playoff position or close - they should take a page out of Nashville book and not be afriad to trade away players regardless of playoffs.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not worried about the lack of deals. The trade deadline will be fruitful for the Flames.

My concern is the Flames have a typical bounce back year after a down year. This team fails to meet expectations in a given year then expectations are reset and they exceed those to return the next year and underwhelm.

This is a team with 6 guys playing for new deals in a year where teams are expecting a cap jump next year. This team also has 3-4 key signed players who failed to live up to their expectations last year and are hungry to bounce back. With better vibes around the team I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see them play to the potential people were giving them before last year started.

Flames are in 1st or 2nd place at the deadline what will they do?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

My concern is the Flames have a typical bounce back year after a down year. This team fails to meet expectations in a given year then expectations are reset and they exceed those to return the next year and underwhelm.

This is a team with 6 guys playing for new deals in a year where teams are expecting a cap jump next year. This team also has 3-4 key signed players who failed to live up to their expectations last year and are hungry to bounce back. With better vibes around the team I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see them play to the potential people were giving them before last year started.

Flames are in 1st or 2nd place at the deadline what will they do?

We’ll be told that in July, after we lose a bunch of key players to free agency, that gaining salary cap space is valuable, and the cycle will continue.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Nhltraderumors claims that the Wild have entered the sweepstakes to land Hanifin. Can't really see it happening, as the Wild have a ton of dead cap space this year and next from the Parise/Suter buyouts- unless we took contracts back.

They do have some interesting youngsters though- C Marco Rossi, C Riley Heidt, C/RW Charlie Stramel, C/LW Rasmus Kumpalainen, G Jesper Wallstedt, D Brock Faber, RW Danila Yurov, LW Liam Ohgren, D Carson Lambos, LW Adam Beckman, and there's been talk of Minny perhaps wanting to move D Calen Addison.

I still have hope that hanifin is gone before the end of summer (and sec said it should happen) but man the number of suitors is dwindling. And it’s the point where we might have to make a 3 way deal with the cap the way it is and the ntc clauses that gms are handing out like candy on Halloween. Can maybe trade for a C that would not waive to come here and flip that C to Boston who is in dire need.

Otherwise, what are we left with? Minny? Nyi? Seattle? Lots of ntcs on nyi and Seattle and don’t know what we would want off of minnys roster (players who would be available and would want to come here).

One of the worst off seasons on record.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't buy that. Conroy was very up front and honest about what he's attempting to do. I think it's very clear the bottomed out trade market is what has held back deals, and not the approaching season or contemplating if we just run it back with 5 expiring UFA's.

If we enter the season without another trade it will be because the right deal was not available yet, not because Conroy looked at a calendar and went "meh, she's gettin late, may as well shut the phone lines down and give up on my plan".

That's not at all what I was saying.

I expect Lindholm to be resigned.

It's up to Backlund to walk to UFA. I don't think the Flames will trade him just for the purpose of not letting him walk for free.

I believe Hanifin, Tanev are the only real pieces that they are considering trading away but if the Flames do well this season, how can you possibly trade them away at the deadline?

Going to be interesting for sure.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

It's up to Backlund to walk to UFA. I don't think the Flames will trade him just for the purpose of not letting him walk for free.

I believe Hanifin, Tanev are the only real pieces that they are considering trading away but if the Flames do well this season, how can you possibly trade them away at the deadline?

Going to be interesting for sure.

Flames should trade all of their pending UFAs, why keep them if they won't resign.

Backlund for sure, should be moved

Flames are a mid-tier team they can't afford to lose key pieces for nothing

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

We’ll be told that in July, after we lose a bunch of key players to free agency, that gaining salary cap space is valuable, and the cycle will continue.

Cap space is valuable.

What is ‘cycle’ supposed to mean?

[Burner]

all this silence must be killing Conroy....

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

My concern is the Flames have a typical bounce back year after a down year. This team fails to meet expectations in a given year then expectations are reset and they exceed those to return the next year and underwhelm.

This is a team with 6 guys playing for new deals in a year where teams are expecting a cap jump next year. This team also has 3-4 key signed players who failed to live up to their expectations last year and are hungry to bounce back. With better vibes around the team I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see them play to the potential people were giving them before last year started.

Flames are in 1st or 2nd place at the deadline what will they do?

This is the question. I’m certain the Flames aren’t planning on being out of the playoff picture.

I believe them when they say they believe in this team so hard to imagine a scenario where the Flames are solidly in a playoff spot and they gut the roster trading for futures. If the team is playing well, I suspect they up their offers to the pending FA’s.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Cap space is valuable.

What is ‘cycle’ supposed to mean?

I am guessing it means mediocrity. Never being a true Stanley Cup contender but being a participant in the league and being good enough to lose in the first round, second round during very successful years. Missing the playoffs about half the time but making the playoffs half the time. Basically the Flames Way.