2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[sa226]

Nylander fits what the Flames want to do. But I'm not sure I'd want to spend Huberdeau money on him.

Also LOL to Treliving UFAing himself into a corner then demanding one of the top prospects in the league for the player that everyone knows he needs to trade.

On his own, Nylander is tough to peg for trade value. The points are there, but he's clearly behind Matthews, Marner and Tavares. So what is he?

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[Electricprez]

Do we really think the guy preaching to every media outlet that he gets on that we need to get younger, give young guys a chance, etc. is going to ship out our top prospect so that we can 'compete now'?

There's nothing saying we need to be making this kind of deal right this moment, or at all.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Nylander makes less sense if Lindholm wants out in my opinion. I view it more as a move to appease him.

Originally Posted by kehatch

If the Flames are pursuing Nylander, it isn't because Lindholm is moving on. There is no point in spending a bunch of money on wingers when you don't have any centers. It's more likely they would be pursuing Nylander as a way to convince Lindholm to sign.

Salary cap says otherwise, but think what you like.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

The Flames don't have a long-term plan.

Of course they've got a long-term plan...but the first part of that is getting out of the hell that BT left behind personnel-wise and the bitter taste that Edwards and Sutter left in everyone's mouths.

How involved is Edwards? We don't know. Hopefully he is told, forcefully, by everyone on his management team to eff off and leave hockey decisions to hockey guys, not businessmen.

[dustygoon]

Great info. Thanks!

I can’t see how my lander that would require a back breaking cap hit. He can play center though. So if he’s not just a winger then maybe?

I hate nylanders work ethic on some plays.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Salary cap says otherwise, but think what you like.

Get rid of Hanifin and they are mostly there this season. Then next offseason get rid of Mangiapane etc and go with a bargain bin defense. There is a path to it. Don’t love it but it is there.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Capfriendly has the TML over by $8m.


Here's an odd question - Why haven't they bought out Murray yet? What are they waiting for?

The 8 million doesn't include Muzzin on LTIR. His back is messed and there's no way he's coming back.

With Murray I'm guessing either they are seeing if he's willing to go on LTIR for the whole season or they are seeing if they can trade him. There was a rumour that Dubas was going to extend him this season so maybe they are working out a deal. But they have the 2nd buyout window still.

[Royle9]

Leafs want only futures for Nylander because they can’t afford to sign him let alone take anything back. They’re dealing from a posistion of weakness and the league knows it.
No chance Craig is stupid enough to deal Wolf for any sort of Nylander deal, Toronto would be lucky to get Hanifin in any deal, but he’s also said he wants to play in the US.

Toronto after yesterday is absolutely screwed cap wise, and don’t have Matthew extended nor a starting goalie.

I would think Nylander could end up here in a package for Vladar +++ but I’m not sure I want Nylander at 9.5+ especially if we think we’re resigning Lindholm for that lol, we don’t have the room either.

What a weird situation.
Brads delusional if he thinks he’s going to get arguably the #1 prospect in the league right now, and a goalie to boot.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

The 8 million doesn't include Muzzin on LTIR. His back is messed and there's no way he's coming back.

With Murray I'm guessing either they are seeing if he's willing to go on LTIR for the whole season or they are seeing if they can trade him. There was a rumour that Dubas was going to extend him this season so maybe they are working out a deal. But they have the 2nd buyout window still.

He would have to be injured though come October....is he?

[Jiri Hrdina]

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to dealing Wolf for a premium forward, if they are signed. But the value has to be there.
I think Wolf is a tremendous prospect but there are still questions about whether it will translate to the NHL. I don't think he's the #1 goalie prospect (I would have him 3rd behind Askarov and Wallstedt) and certainly not the #1 prospect. He would probably be down in the 40s or 50s overall.

I just think goalies are so hard to project that if you can use the asset to bring in an elite forward, I wouldn't be opposed. I don't know how you work out the cap though.

[keenan87]

I would be fine trading Wolf for Konecny.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to dealing Wolf for a premium forward, if they are signed. But the value has to be there.
I think Wolf is a tremendous prospect but there are still questions about whether it will translate to the NHL. I don't think he's the #1 goalie prospect (I would have him 3rd behind Askarov and Wallstedt) and certainly not the #1 prospect. He would probably be down in the 40s or 50s overall.

I just think goalies are so hard to project that if you can use the asset to bring in an elite forward, I wouldn't be opposed. I don't know how you work out the cap though.

There isn't a Goalie prospect in the last 10 years that carry the accolades, awards and frankly, stats, that Wolf has garnered in the last 5 years.

He is, in my opinion, by far the best goalie prospect in the NHL.

The only think that Askarov and Wallstedt have over Wolf is their draft capital. He's out played them at every level.

[Mass_nerder]

Nothing good comes from trading with the Leafs, especially not when their GM is our former GM.
No trading with the Leafs.

[Goriders]

No idea how they are going to fit Nylander under our cap even if Hanifin is going the other way. They would have to dump a few players and take no one back.

Huberdeau and Kadri sucked up all of our cap space. If they are truly trying to extend Lindholm as well at I’m guessing 8-9 million. That’s about it for big contracts. Unless they buy someone out.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I would be fine trading Wolf for Konecny.

I think you could get Konecny without parting with Wolf, they already have Hart. I think you could get him for less than what the Leafs want for Nylander too and he has a manageable salary under contract. Plus the ties to Calgary I would much rather they went that route if possible. Just my thoughts.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He would have to be injured though come October....is he?

Capfriendly shows he was cleared May 9. Assuming that’s true, they need some other mystery illness for him, or buyout.

CF shows they are about 2.5 over the cap with Muzzin on LTIR, and no salary for Samsonov yet. Tre is going to have to give away a player I would imagine.

[devo22]

I love Wolf as much as everybody else, but I have a hard time putting the "untouchable" label on him. Goalies are voodoo and if there's an elite forward to be had for a package involving Wolf, you have to consider it.

That being said, I'm not sure Nylander fits that bill. I'd rather move Hanifin for futures and include those in a deal for Nylander.

[Wastedyouth]

You have to be cap compliant at the start of the season. You can't start with guys in the LTIR.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He would have to be injured though come October....is he?

Probably. He usually is.

Mike Smith magically became injured and was placed in LTIR even though he was playing in the playoffs the season before. I don't see why the Leafs can't do the same with Murray. Of course Murray would have to agree to it. That's the wrinkle they are waiting for. If Murray gets bought out is anyone giving him a new contract even? Maybe Kyle Dubas but I doubt it. You would think it's for league minimum if he can even get one. He's owed 8 million in real dollars. So he's giving up a third of that in hopes of resurrecting his career.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Capfriendly has the TML over by $8m.


Here's an odd question - Why haven't they bought out Murray yet? What are they waiting for?

2nd buyout window


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