2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Thanks, appreciate that.

My discord has gotten pretty quiet lately, and all of this Flames roster drama has me wanting to chat about it.

Welcome back good sir!

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by devo22

it's not just that, it's also that fans are absolutely enamored with draft picks. And I get it, I am too ...

Especially this time of year, when everyone is reading draft profiles and projecting every player to reach their maximum potential.

[NewFan]

If the return is bad, don't rush. We still have 1 year to trade them. Just get some draft picks 2024 & 2025. Have a long term plan and vision.

[Sylvanfan]

I think most teams who were willing to trade their pick this year already did so. There are a few who got an extra pick that might move a later one for right now help. But the market on established players is pretty tough right now without a lot of cap space in the league. We're seeing guys given away with teams paying most of the salary to do it. Even a guy like Durzi who is a NHL level defenseman fetched a 2nd in next year's draft. So seems to indicate a ver weak trade market if you can't match the money.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Sec214

King Kong ain't got nothing on Sec.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I would hardly call one of the most unique 2-off-season exodus situations, especially involving two early/mid-twenties all stars, “inevitable.”

There’s not a prospect pipeline in the league that could fill these gaps in this timeframe.

The Flames losing their pending UFAs is an inevitability.

How many have they successfully re-signed in the past ten years relative to the ones that have walked?

Zadorov is the exception, not the rule.

Players want to play elsewhere. Plan for it.

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The Flames losing their pending UFAs is an inevitability.

How many have they successfully re-signed in the past ten years relative to the ones that have walked?

Zadorov is the exception, not the rule.

Players want to play elsewhere. Plan for it.

They all have to play for their next big pay day! Not the end of the world if they unload at the deadline! On the mean time if there is success they have plenty of time to negotiate contracts! Not ideal but not the end of the world!

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

But the market on established players is pretty tough right now without a lot of cap space in the league. We're seeing guys given away with teams paying most of the salary to do it. Even a guy like Durzi who is a NHL level defenseman fetched a 2nd in next year's draft. So seems to indicate a ver weak trade market if you can't match the money.

The Avs just got a #2/3 C for free because the Preds wanted to clear $4 mil. Cap is king. If you’re looking for a straight player for picks deal, you’re going to have a real tough time getting full value.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The Flames losing their pending UFAs is an inevitability.

How many have they successfully re-signed in the past ten years relative to the ones that have walked?

Zadorov is the exception, not the rule.

Players want to play elsewhere. Plan for it.

Backlund, Giordano, and Brodie all come to mind. How many have they lost, that they actually wanted to retain?
Kept Glencross and Bourque.

[Yeah_Baby]

If any of you are in Nashville and see Frank Seravelli can you tell him how to pronouce Zadorov properly please.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

If any of you are in Nashville and see Frank Seravelli can you tell him how to pronouce Zadorov properly please.

I find that the way he says Murray rubs me the wrong way too.

Call him Mary Edward's one more time and I'll Jim Everett your ass you wannabe Jim Rome.

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

I don’t envy Craig Conroy in this scenario one bit. That said, the waiting is the hardest part. I’m excited/nervous to see what he can pull off.

I'm just going to take it on faith and take it to the heart.

[Sec214]

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

[Party Elephant]

Alright it's 10am where that juice at

[btimbit]

Damn, 10 on the nose too

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

Pull the trigger Conroy.

And Hatti B's is delicious

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Damn, 10 on the nose too

Not intentional.

The orange juice wasn't fresh yet.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by FusionX

With that said though, I think this would only work with more supplementary players and I'm of the mind that Lindholm and Hanifin need to be dealt prior to the season if they're not staying. They would play too integral of a role on the team so that unless we're terrible (unlikely), it'd be hard to justify trading these guys at the deadline with the team right around the mix for playoffs (more likely).

If you're a small market team like the Flames you trade them either way. You can't afford to abandon good asset management on a hope and a prayer that you'll be able to make noise in the playoffs.

Doing it the old fashioned way (buying when in a playoff spot) hasn't worked for a long time. It's amazing to me there are still GMs employed who repeatedly do things that provably don't work towards long term success.

Treliving was one of the worst in this regard. I hope Conroy isn't just a stooge who will rinse and repeat broken management techniques.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

Sound good. Let’s make it happen

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames received a substantial trade offer last evening for Elias, Eastern Conference Team. Flames are going to hold out in hopes they can drive up the price slightly. The deadline is quickly approaching for Elias to sign an extension.

The package was "not distant futures" and a pick 1st round pick.

He's gambling right now.

Conroy has a handful GMs awaiting his phone call on Elias.

Hatti B's this afternoon... No more Jack.

Seems like a good start if true. Not distant futures can mean b prospects though.