[News] Treliving named Leafs GM

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Marner's more like Gaudreau than Huberdeau, as he carries a lot more.

Except that Marner kills penalties at a top 10 forward in the league level and is scary good in forcing the PP team to play defense.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Cheese

The last time we lost our GM to Toronto and hired a rookie GM this happened:


Flames traded Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Jamie Macoun, Kent Manderville and Rick Wamsley to Toronto for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Michel Petit and Jeff Reese.


The spiral down the toilet began in earnest...
I hope Conny looks back, far back..

TBH, that rookie GM was really rookie who has no experience in GM'ing for so ever. But Conny has been a AGM quite sometimes now, I don't think he'll make the same mistake. I also don't think Treliving can sweet talk Conny the same way Fletcher sweet talked Riser.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well the Flames (and anyone else) can forget about Matthews and Marner so don't bother with those proposals the Leafs will never trade either. As for big moves Tre didn't trade any core players until he was forced to....or let them walk.

Was Hamilton core? He was considered core when he started here, that's fore sure.

[Manhattanboy]

Mitch Marner?!! Yes please, Tre make it so!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Was Hamilton core? He was considered core when he started here, that's fore sure.

He also asked for a trade

Bennett asked for a trade
Tkachuk forced his way out
Gaudreau walked
Monahan...had to give up a first to move him

He certainly wasn't afraid to make big moves with picks I give you that

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Then BigBrodieFan has to come crawling back. I like it.

Hey, leave BigBrodieFan out of this, she has been great contirbutor on this site.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well the Flames (and anyone else) can forget about Matthews and Marner so don't bother with those proposals the Leafs will never trade either. As for big moves Tre didn't trade any core players until he was forced to....or let them walk.

Dougie Hamilton?

Core players or not, Treliving was among the more active GM’s during his tenure.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He also asked for a trade

Bennett asked for a trade
Tkachuk forced his way out
Gaudreau walked
Monahan...had to give up a first to move him

He certainly wasn't afraid to make big moves with picks I give you that

I don't recall that. The talk afterward was that he didn't fit in. A lot of that was Francis. But also others.

https://flamesnation.ca/news/why-did...hamilton-trade

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He also asked for a trade

Bennett asked for a trade
Tkachuk forced his way out
Gaudreau walked
Monahan...had to give up a first to move him

He certainly wasn't afraid to make big moves with picks I give you that

Does it matter why he made those moves? By comparison, how many ‘core’ players from other teams are moved without a trade request being made and why does it matter?

He acquired two players last summer that were core players on their team who didn’t ask for a trade. Is that better or worse and, again, why does it matter?

[dino7c]

You guys have sort memories

Hamilton wanted out of Calgary...Brad said, and I quote on the day of the deal he "wanted players that wanted to play in Calgary." Hamilton was mad they waived his brother

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I mean look at the list of experienced GMs available. The short list that was mentioned by the Toronto media was something like Treliving, Chiarelli, Bergevin, Botterill... the NHL recycles mediocre GMs endlessly.

To be honest, Treliving is the best among this list!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Does it matter why he made those moves? By comparison, how many ‘core’ players from other teams are moved without a trade request being made and why does it matter?

He acquired two players last summer that were core players on their team who didn’t ask for a trade. Is that better or worse and, again, why does it matter?

Well if you guys are going to say he isn't afraid to make big moves and then all the examples are moves he was forced to make and many of them too late it is 100% relevant to the convo.

You are here talking about him trading Marner...it's not gonna happen

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You guys have sort memories

Hamilton wanted out of Calgary...Brad said, and I quote on the day of the deal he "wanted players that wanted to play in Calgary." Hamilton was mad they waived his brother

Again, why does this matter?

Would Treliving deserve more credit if he traded a core player who hadn’t requested a trade?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well if you guys are going to say he isn't afraid to make big moves and then all the examples are moves he was forced to make and many of them too late it is 100% relevant to the convo.

You are here talking about him trading Marner...it's not gonna happen

That was someone else’s proposal. I’d prefer Nylander.

And I’m still not sure whether a player asking to be traded, or not, has any relevance. He traded core pieces the extenuating circumstances don’t mean anything nor do they appear to have had any material effect.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

happy for Tre, some Leafs fans here aren't too thrilled but i liked him and think he can do well in TO...

Who the heck did they think they were going to get?

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I mean look at the list of experienced GMs available. The short list that was mentioned by the Toronto media was something like Treliving, Chiarelli, Bergevin, Botterill... the NHL recycles mediocre GMs endlessly.

three of those names have been GM once. not really recycled
I think getting a "once used GM" might be a good strategy. Let someone else deal with the growing pains. Hope the second time around should be better if they learned anything. No certainty with that, of course

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TOfan

That was someone else’s proposal. I’d prefer Nylander.

And I’m still not sure whether a player asking to be traded, or not, has any relevance. He traded core pieces the extenuating circumstances don’t mean anything nor do they appear to have had any material effect.

Really? he only made "bold moves" when he was forced to and it was often too late

Point being he won't trade any core Leafs unless he is forced to

IMO

They will run it back and them, their fans, and media will be dumbfounded when the result is the same.

Heck they will lose Bunting who was actually pretty good for them...I bet he does well elsewhere away from the spotlight.

[bdubbs]

I'd love Nylander on the Flames. I think he'd thrive as 'the guy' on another team. He's third on the Leafs at best.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

Make like a tree and leaf

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Haha. There are so many layers to this.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Really? he only made "bold moves" when he was forced to and it was often too late

Point being he won't trade any core Leafs unless he is forced to

IMO

They will run it back and them, their fans, and media will be dumbfounded when the result is the same.

Heck they will lose Bunting who was actually pretty good for them...I bet he does well elsewhere away from the spotlight.

Your crystal ball must work better than mine.

Too late? By who’s standards? Yours?

I would say the majority of trades where core pieces are involved could be argued that the move was ‘forced’ or had some sort of pressure point being exerted. Horvat, PLD/Liane, Fiala, Timo Meier to name just a few off the top of my head.