[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yeah but she should have won against a punching bag like Smith. But her record of the economy weakening, raising taxes, raising minimum wage has some people upset where she lost in both 2019 and 2023 against weak leaders. I don't agree but that's the perception. The next time Smith runs, she will have a record people will punish her for.

The economy weakening wasn’t her record. And the reasons she lost have nothing to do with raising minimum wages or even taxes. They have to do with myths about which party’s economies do better.

[Julio]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

Everyone is ignoring the 3rd most important question of the election

Will Larry Heather get more than 100 votes?

Yup...he's @ 110 now. And the NDP candidate is leading Tyler Shandro by less than 100 votes atm.

[browna]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Not remotely similar.

I'd say pretty accurate.

Many voters find both distasteful and arrogant personalities, pathological liars, who bend the rules and hide a lot of things politically (to varying degrees), and both bending over backwards for special interest groups and lobbyist supporters.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Justifiable in who's eyes? People vote their positions.

Justifiable by anyone with a brain. We have seen it all election long not a single reason to support the UCP.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Izzle

I totally look forward to your absence from the Alberta politics thread in the next 4-5 years.

Oh I’ll be happily gone by morning time. The amount of vitriol spewed in here from NDP supporters towards anybody that opposed them tonight is staggering. I said it earlier, I’ll say it again, the thread title should be changed to NDP fan forum.

[Yamer]

So we're inevitably going to have NDP supporters lamenting the fall of society and the stupidity of Albertans, and conversely we're going to have UCP supporters doing a victory lap and showing their ass.

Tomorrow, we're all still Albertans, and we're all going to share the same 4 years. Perhaps instead of firing shots at each other we can try to figure this out together. I know that's probably hippy-dippy bull####, but I remember what Dave Chappelle said after Biden defeated Trump 2 years ago:

I would implore everybody who’s celebrating today to remember it’s good to be a humble winner. Remember when I was here four years ago? Remember how bad that felt? Remember that half the country right now still feels that way. Please remember that. Remember that for the first time in the history of America, the life expectancy of white people is dropping. Because of heroin, because of suicide. All these white people out there that feel that anguish, that pain, they are mad because they think nobody cares, and maybe they don’t. Let me tell you something. I know how that feels. I promise you, I know how that feels. If you’re a police officer, and every time you put your uniform on, you feel like you’ve got a target on your back, you’re appalled by the ingratitude that people have when you would risk your life to save them — Oh, man, believe me, believe me, I know how that feels. Everyone knows how that feels. But here’s the difference between me and you. You guys hate each other for that. And I don’t hate anybody. I just hate that feeling. That’s what I fight through. That’s what I suggest you fight through. You got to find a way to live your life. You got to find a way to forgive each other. You got to find a way to find joy in your existence in spite of that feeling.

See you tomorrow, Alberta.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Justifiable by anyone with a brain. We have seen it all election long not a single reason to support the UCP.

In your opinion.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Justifiable in who's eyes? People vote their positions.

And if their positions are racism, anti-science and anti-LGBTQ+? Those are justified?

[Looch City]

So who’s gonna be the team of UCP Dark Knights who will keep the crazy wild Danielle Smith in check?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Justifiable in who's eyes? People vote their positions.

most people just vote for the same party their entire life like its a sports team...no matter how much they get jerked around they keep coming back for more, sound familiar?

[Muta]

Get ready for more doctors leaving. The bloodbath is coming. Hope y'all like Dr. Nick Riviera types.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

In your opinion.

Nope in reality.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Oh I’ll be happily gone by morning time. The amount of vitriol spewed in here from NDP supporters towards anybody that opposed them tonight is staggering. I said it earlier, I’ll say it again, the thread title should be changed to NDP fan forum.

The new thread after this election should be "The UCP is no good"

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by BigNumbers

Unfortunately, while I think notley is the strongest leader in the ndp camp, the baggage she has from her time as leader, right or wrong, means she has to step down. Probably need to rename party and colors. Should have merged with the AB party in 2020 and renamed the thing.

They needed to rename the NDP to literally anything else 2 years before this election. If Notley had done that she'd be preparing a victory speech right now, but she decided the team colors were more important than winning under a platform of good governance.

[Harry Lime]

I'm not really sure why the NDP made so much of the election about Smith, and 'who can you trust'. The old UCP cabinet is all still there, and they should have run on Kenney's record, and Smith as a side character. Water under the bridge, now.

[Swayze11]

Originally Posted by Looch City

So who’s gonna be the team of UCP Dark Knights who will keep the crazy wild Danielle Smith in check?

This is what I am most curious about, especially with a lot of reports of MLAs going door to door with the message of “don’t worry about her, we will take care of that”

[burn_this_city]

Thought the NDP ran a pretty mediocre campaign and lacked a knockout in the debate. Right or wrong it’s difficult to change the perception they were partially responsible for the 2015 downturn. I don’t think most folks follow the bozo eruptions enough to move the needle. Hopefully the results tighten up a bit so Smith feels a bit of heat and avoids going off-road.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Not remotely similar.

I don't know, it's kind of similar. There are people across the country that will never vote for certain parties and there are people who will vote for their "usual" party no matter what. The Liberals got 36.73% of the vote after the sponsorship scandal broke.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by browna

I'd say pretty accurate.

Many voters find both distasteful and arrogant personalities, pathological liars, who bend the rules and hide a lot of things politically (to varying degrees), and both bending over backwards for special interest groups and lobbyist supporters.

One is a bigot. The other is merely vapid. One’s actual policies are horrific and the others are middle of the road.

[TKB]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Oh I’ll be happily gone by morning time. The amount of vitriol spewed in here from NDP supporters towards anybody that opposed them tonight is staggering. I said it earlier, I’ll say it again, the thread title should be changed to NDP fan forum.

Even the Alberta politics thread for the last couple years was unreadable. Was the usual suspects circle jerking one another and attacking anyone with a different view point.