What to do with Huberdeau?

[GullFoss]

Some of you have to start using your ignore list lol

[Hockey_Ninja]

Huberdeau isn’t getting traded guys. The Flames gave him the biggest contract in franchise history and they aren’t gonna just give up on the guy after a rough season where there was known disfunction behind the scenes. The best we can hope for is he bounces back. If he doesn’t, then we can get worried

[Hackey]

I think he should have better numbers next year. The unfortunate thing is if he's not at least around the 90+ pts mark then he's already not earning his pay check and it's only year 1. What will the next 7 years look like? This is why I'll never understand this insistence to WIN NOW! You're not winning and you've only increased your probability of getting worse over a long period of time, further continuing the not winning.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He is still going to be a 80-100 point guy. You think a late 1st is fair value for that?

I can't believe that you wouldn't trade Huberdeau for the 19th pick in this draft and rid yourself of $84MM of cap space.

Not that there is any chance Chicago would do this, it's an insane idea.

Chicago wouldn't take Huberdeau if Calgary sweetened the pot with the 16th pick.

Huberdeau may be a 70-80 point guy this year, he certainly has that ability. But for how long? And it's not a sure thing, by any means.

That saved cap space would have huge value these days.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This is the Calgary Flames not the Calgary Sutters.

Many people want to see him and the team succeed.

Not yay Sutter see they suck and so does Huberdeau.

Also most negative poster and start complaining as soon as any news comes out.

Are you eveb a flames fan.

Burning Beard was one of the few people on this board who didn’t complain relentlessly all season, trended way more on the positive side, and actually seemed to enjoy the games.

You were more negative than he was all season lol. I think you’re both Flames fans with different views on how the last season went, not sure why that makes him not a fan.

[Always Earned Never Given]

The good thing out of this year is that now Huberdeau knows how to play on the defensive side of the puck.

Out of all the Flames players, his head was on a swivel constantly in the D zone. Other Flames just focused on the puck.

So if what Connie said is true and they want to play a creative brand in the O zone, this means more east west and attacking the middle and less north south dump and chases on 3 on 2's.

Then Connie mentioned that he wanted structure on the D side so thanks to Sutter I believe Huberdeau figured it out this season.

Some have stated it multiple times this year that this was his best season on the D side.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him over 90 pts next season as the PP can't possibly be worst than last year.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I can't believe that you wouldn't trade Huberdeau for the 19th pick in this draft and rid yourself of $84MM of cap space.

Not that there is any chance Chicago would do this, it's an insane idea.

Chicago wouldn't take Huberdeau if Calgary sweetened the pot with the 16th pick.

Huberdeau may be a 70-80 point guy this year, he certainly has that ability. But for how long? And it's not a sure thing, by any means.

That saved cap space would have huge value these days.

That huge cap space doesn't mean crap if you can't attract big names. This isn't the Arizona Coyotes.

[Monahammer]

Kadri is the one you trade for anything possible.

I also shudder to think what huby-bedard could do.

[Bonded]

I do think if Conroy could trade Huberdreau for a reasonable return he'd do it

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I can't believe that you wouldn't trade Huberdeau for the 19th pick in this draft and rid yourself of $84MM of cap space.

Not that there is any chance Chicago would do this, it's an insane idea.

Chicago wouldn't take Huberdeau if Calgary sweetened the pot with the 16th pick.

Huberdeau may be a 70-80 point guy this year, he certainly has that ability. But for how long? And it's not a sure thing, by any means.

That saved cap space would have huge value these days.

Based on his style of play and IQ, Huberdeau should be a reliable 70-80 point player for at least three years, and and 60+ reliably for at least five, if we supply him with a couple players to maximize his strengths.

He might be a Phil Kessel level star, but he’s not Phil Kessel level with his lack of conditioning.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Based on his style of play and IQ, Huberdeau should be a reliable 70-80 point player for at least three years, and and 60+ reliably for at least five, if we supply him with a couple players to maximize his strengths.

He might be a Phil Kessel level star, but he’s not Phil Kessel level with his lack of conditioning.

The man had 55 this year.

Not saying that’s his norm but it’s very possible when he gets older. He is not a guarantee 80 pt player any more , not with the Flames

[Saqe]

Nobody is going to touch that contract after the season he just had. Wasn't that the biggest drop in production in like the history of the league? If there ever was a red flag that's it.

I said this before but I really hope Huby takes the bull by the horns and lives up to the expectations of now being the clear cut #1 guy on the team. No more pointing fingers at others or half assing it and showing up when he wants to. If everything that happened last year and now with Florida doesn't light a fire under his ass, nothing will.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I do think if Conroy could trade Huberdreau for a reasonable return he'd do it

If he could dump him for nothing he'd jump on it.

There is likely zero chance he'll ever play to that contract.

He might get to 70 or even 80 points for a few years, as many have mentioned, the PP cannot be any worse.

But it's doubtful his later years will be particularly productive.

This next year will be very important for both the Flames and especially Hubby.

They likely have no where to go but up.

Getting league average goaltending would be a good start.

[DeluxeMoustache]

These last few posts are hilarious

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Based on his style of play and IQ, Huberdeau should be a reliable 70-80 point player for at least three years, and and 60+ reliably for at least five, if we supply him with a couple players to maximize his strengths.

He might be a Phil Kessel level star, but he’s not Phil Kessel level with his lack of conditioning.

He was also never a Phil Kessel level skater though. Kessel in his prime was one of the speediest in the league, Huberdeau had to cheat for offense to get that extra step

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That huge cap space doesn't mean crap if you can't attract big names. This isn't the Arizona Coyotes.

Well, getting additional cap space might allow Calgary to sign some of their exiting UFA's. As it is. Hubby's contract jump means some have to go.

Your comment about the Coyotes is a mystery, please explain?

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I can't believe that you wouldn't trade Huberdeau for the 19th pick in this draft and rid yourself of $84MM of cap space.

Not that there is any chance Chicago would do this, it's an insane idea.

Chicago wouldn't take Huberdeau if Calgary sweetened the pot with the 16th pick.

Huberdeau may be a 70-80 point guy this year, he certainly has that ability. But for how long? And it's not a sure thing, by any means.

That saved cap space would have huge value these days.

I don't think people realize how important cap efficiency is. If you're going to be a contender, it's everything.

Even if Huberdeau had 105 points this upcoming season, I question whether he'd have positive trade value. At the end of the day, at the end of next season, he'll be 31 years old, with 7 years left at 10.5 mill.
105 points in a vacuum is worth about 10.5 mill, but the term and age are what kills the value.

This is a league where Burns, Pacioretty, and Bjorkstrand were all traded for nothing, despite the fact that the all earned their current AAV.

[devo22]

it's ridiculous that people are already writing him off. Yes, his season was terrible, but that doesn't mean he can't rebound. Heck, look at Jeff Skinner ... he went from 40 goals a season to 7 goals and 7 assists in 53 games, then bounced back to being a ~ 35/80 guy. That kind of stuff does happen.

Huberdeau came to a new team and put massive pressure on himself, then clearly didn't mesh with a coach who put him on his off-wing and had him play a game that didn't suit him. That doesn't absolve Huberdeau, but that also doesn't mean he can't rebound.

I fully expect him to make a lot of people eat crow next season. And I'll be rooting hard for that because it's good news for the Calgary Flames.

[Icantwhisper]

Imagine Huberdeau was on the Oilers with the season he just had, what would we be saying on here?
We laugh at the Nurse contract, it's a million less a year for a year shorter.
If this was Huberdeau on any other team we'd be roasting them.
If Huberdeau was on another team and available right now what would you offer to land him with his current contract? I'm pretty sure the "he had 115 points before last season" schtick wouldn't fly.
Huberdeau is a guy you take a flyer on if he is 4.5 a year and just had the season he had, nobody wants him with the "hope" he returns to 100 point guy and takes up 12% of your cap for 8 more years.
Best case scenario he is PPG for next 3-4 years and them it's going to hurt. The cap going up is not going to make this deal look better, it's still poor cap management.
Huberdeau might have even less value if you consider Miller might be had and he is a PPG player that makes 2MM less a season.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by devo22

it's ridiculous that people are already writing him off. Yes, his season was terrible, but that doesn't mean he can't rebound. Heck, look at Jeff Skinner ... he went from 40 goals a season to 7 goals and 7 assists in 53 games, then bounced back to being a ~ 35/80 guy. That kind of stuff does happen.

Huberdeau came to a new team and put massive pressure on himself, then clearly didn't mesh with a coach who put him on his off-wing and had him play a game that didn't suit him. That doesn't absolve Huberdeau, but that also doesn't mean he can't rebound.

I fully expect him to make a lot of people eat crow next season. And I'll be rooting hard for that because it's good news for the Calgary Flames.

Great example, one guy, how about every other player that dropped off and didn't rebound? Yes it can happen and we all hope it does, but it's a very long shot this contract ever looks good.