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			Not sure where to put this so... 
Div 3! Playing for 4th place!
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			04-11-2023, 12:09 AM
			
			
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			Old time hockey.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:10 AM
			
			
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			You can almost see them thinking 'I know this is a brawl, I've seen it on old hockey tapes but I'm not actually sure what to do'
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:13 AM
			
			
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			Haiyaaaaa... what a mess
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:14 AM
			
			
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			the QMJHL wouldn't stand for this.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:31 AM
			
			
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			I don't understand why women can't play contact hockey.  It would help grow Women's hockey if they could play the game we all love to watch.  Non contact hack n whack with cages doesn't have traction.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:33 AM
			
			
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			Because they’re fragile. /sarcasm 
 
Seriously, decades ago women weren’t allowed to run marathons for that reason.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 12:36 AM
			
			
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			Bulgaria and romania are neighbors.  
 
I wonder if they have a Calgary Edmonton relationship.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 01:09 AM
			
			
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			It’s an absolute joke that in the age of women’s UFC, Women’s hockey still doesn’t allow hitting.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2023, 01:16 AM
			
			
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			I watch that and the music that immediately starts playing in my head goes "oh the good ol' hockey game is the best game you can name..."
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2023, 01:36 AM
			
			
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			Did they try turning the lights off?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 08:39 AM
			
			
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				I don't understand why women can't play contact hockey.  It would help grow Women's hockey if they could play the game we all love to watch.  Non contact hack n whack with cages doesn't have traction. 
			
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				It’s an absolute joke that in the age of women’s UFC, Women’s hockey still doesn’t allow hitting. 
			
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Seriously. It's time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 08:44 AM
			
			
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			it needs yakety-sax playing in the background.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 08:46 AM
			
			
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			It’s probably an insurance issue more than anything. They obviously get sub pennies in the dollar vs nhl revenues and probably don’t want to pay as much in injury premiums. Also with concussion issues bubbling lawsuit wise, again, mitigating those challenges is probably good.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-11-2023, 09:13 AM
			
			
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			I'll jump in. I have been heavily involved in female hockey for 12 years and have 2 daughters who played local MHA and elite. 
 
There are valid physiological and practical reasons for not allowing "full" contact in female hockey. The people who have issues with it usually happen to have a female player in the 10 percentile with the neck strength/build to handle it and manages to make it through U15 AA coed relatively unscathed (I know plenty who didn't).  
 
Beyond that, once girls hit the elite stream (AA, AAA, Prep) there is plenty of contact and your fooling yourself if you think there isn't. The board play and net front is similar to coed, just missing the boomers which cause the whiplash that "most" of our girls want to stay away from. If you allowed FULL contact some girls would excel but a lot would simply get hurt and mostly head and neck. 
 
Generally speaking, outside of the elite stream, the talent gap would only see a lot of less talented and physically weaker girls get hurt. Also generally speaking the girls don't play the hack and whack like you would see in the coed side if hitting was taken away. Years of getting called for it probably slows it down.  
 
Our game is growing at the association level but even with the successful programs you would see A players on the ice with B and in smaller communities there may be a C or two thrown in.  
 
At the national or pro level where you have more evenly matched and physically trained women, you could probably (and I think one day likely) allow more, modified contact, along the boards etc. But we have to limit the whiplash high impact type hits.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2023, 09:14 AM
			
			
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			04-11-2023, 09:18 AM
			
			
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				I don't understand why women can't play contact hockey.  It would help grow Women's hockey if they could play the game we all love to watch.  Non contact hack n whack with cages doesn't have traction. 
			
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				Seriously. It's time. 
			
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They used to at one time, but Canada was smashing everyone, on the ice and scoreboard.  The change was to increase competitiveness.   It changed sometime in the late 80's
 
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				I'll jump in. I have been heavily involved in female hockey for 12 years and have 2 daughters who played local MHA and elite. 
 
There are valid physiological and practical reasons for not allowing "full" contact in female hockey. The people who have issues with it usually happen to have a female player in the 10 percentile with the neck strength/build to handle it and manages to make it through U15 AA coed relatively unscathed (I know plenty who didn't).  
 
Beyond that, once girls hit the elite stream (AA, AAA, Prep) there is plenty of contact and your fooling yourself if you think there isn't. The board play and net front is similar to coed, just missing the boomers which cause the whiplash that "most" of our girls want to stay away from. If you allowed FULL contact some girls would excel but a lot would simply get hurt and mostly head and neck. 
 
Generally speaking, outside of the elite stream, the talent gap would only see a lot of less talented and physically weaker girls get hurt. Also generally speaking the girls don't play the hack and whack like you would see in the coed side if hitting was taken away. Years of getting called for it probably slows it down.  
 
Our game is growing at the association level but even with the successful programs you would see A players on the ice with B and in smaller communities there may be a C or two thrown in.  
 
At the national or pro level where you have more evenly matched and physically trained women, you could probably (and I think one day likely) allow more, modified contact, along the boards etc. But we have to limit the whiplash high impact type hits. 
			
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Rugby have identical Laws for Males & Females. 
 
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			Its going the other way, they will eventually take hitting out of mens hockey. People watch Trouba cleanly hit people and hate it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2023, 09:51 AM
			
			
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				They used to at one time, but Canada was smashing everyone, on the ice and scoreboard.  The change was to increase competitiveness.   It changed sometime in the late 80's 
 
 
 
 
 
Rugby have identical Laws for Males & Females.  
 
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I just wrote the reasons. Clear as day. Just because there are the same rules doesn't mean there should be. Just do a google search. Rugby has terrible concussion rates for women....took me about 3 seconds to find that. 
 
This isn't stuff I made up. Just do a little research. High impact contact is bad for women, full stop. If they choose to play rugby, good for them but that doesn't change the facts and the specific fact they are 2 times more likely to get a concussion then men playing the same, but bigger, stronger and faster game.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-11-2023, 09:54 AM
			
			
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				I just wrote the reasons. Clear as day. Just because there are the same rules doesn't mean there should be. Just do a google search. Rugby has terrible concussion rates for women....took me about 3 seconds to find that.  
 
This isn't stuff I made up. Just do a little research. High impact contact is bad for women, full stop. If they choose to play rugby, good for them but that doesn't change the facts and the specific fact they are 2 times more likely to get a concussion then men playing the same, but bigger, stronger and faster game. 
			
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Interesting ... more likely to get concussed in women's hockey or in coed?
 
I coached girls' hockey for years in Calgary, but my daughter was always at the lowest levels and hitting would clearly be a bad thing.
 
Always assumed in higher tier non coed levels it would work.
 
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