2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Lindholm’s next contract will likely be 7 years $9 million’ish (+/- half a million).

I don't see it being 7 years. I'd expect the 8th year, otherwise...why is he signing here? He could go elsewhere for a 7 year deal.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We need to start cutting down the term in contracts and if it means a higher aav so be it.

Except that he probably knows that if he hits open market there will be a bunch of teams offering him 7 years

[dammage79]

Keep Lindholm, do whatever with the rest.

[iggyloob12]

Trading Lindholm puts the Flames into full-blown tear-down mode, which is hard to imagine given the roster. Kadri-Backlund as your 1-2 centres does not make for a good team.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

Trading Lindholm puts the Flames into full-blown tear-down mode, which is hard to imagine given the roster. Kadri-Backlund as your 1-2 centres does not make for a good team.

What do you mean?

Lindholm - 1 year left
Backlund - 1 year left
Toffoli - 1 year left
Hanifin - 1 year left
Tanev - 1 year left

and they aren't a playoff team. The team isn't good, this isn't some roster that "can't be rebuilt because it's sooo good". I'd say the only path forward is a tear-down/rebuild, if they're trying to build a good team that is.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Keep Lindholm, do whatever with the rest.

I’d honestly be fine with this. Even though it’d be hard to say goodbye to Backs

[Toonage]

This team is pretty much a lock for a retool on the fly in a few years and will have a ton of cap space to do it unless they get dumb between now and then.

So selling high on what seems like cornerstone players in Lindholm & Backlund isn't a bad idea at all.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

What do you mean?

Lindholm - 1 year left
Backlund - 1 year left
Toffoli - 1 year left
Hanifin - 1 year left
Tanev - 1 year left

and they aren't a playoff team. The team isn't good, this isn't some roster that "can't be rebuilt because it's sooo good". I'd say the only path forward is a tear-down/rebuild, if they're trying to build a good team that is.

Yeah. Hopefully you get lucky with some picks and prospects and go the Stars route with Huberdeau

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Woke up this morning hoping to see a flames trade, starting the day disappointed.

Sutter hockey has the team coached into a corner with no room to maneuver and management has the team situated with little or no latitiude, also no room to maneuver. Nice to see both coaching and management are on the same road....to nowhere.

[iggyloob12]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

What do you mean?

Lindholm - 1 year left
Backlund - 1 year left
Toffoli - 1 year left
Hanifin - 1 year left
Tanev - 1 year left

and they aren't a playoff team. The team isn't good, this isn't some roster that "can't be rebuilt because it's sooo good". I'd say the only path forward is a tear-down/rebuild, if they're trying to build a good team that is.

I mean the Huberdeau, Weegar, Kadri, Markstrom, Andersson, Mangiapane contacts. That's a lot of term.
As much as I'd favour a rebuild, I don't see it yet. I think it's more likely the team tries to tinker with chemistry before Friday but more likely in the off-season via trades. And then if it doesn't work, you have plenty of expiring deals to trade next deadline.

[iggyloob12]

Originally Posted by Toonage

This team is pretty much a lock for a retool on the fly in a few years and will have a ton of cap space to do it unless they get dumb between now and then.

So selling high on what seems like cornerstone players in Lindholm & Backlund isn't a bad idea at all.

You can't retool on the fly if you trade your number-1 centre. That's a full rebuild.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

I mean the Huberdeau, Weegar, Kadri, Markstrom, Andersson, Mangiapane contacts. That's a lot of term.
As much as I'd favour a rebuild, I don't see it yet. I think it's more likely the team tries to tinker with chemistry before Friday but more likely in the off-season via trades. And then if it doesn't work, you have plenty of expiring deals to trade next deadline.

That seems like the most Calgary Flames thing to do, so I can't argue that it's likely what happens.

It's absolutely not what should happen in my eyes. The idea of re-tooling is laughable for this team - as it's all they do, and it never works.

[Bonded]

That’s a hefty Pastrnak extension

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Sutter hockey has the team coached into a corner with no room to maneuver and management has the team situated with little or no latitiude, also no room to maneuver. Nice to see both coaching and management are on the same road....to nowhere.

This makes absolutely no sense at all.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Realize?? Flames fans have lived this reality for, what , 30 years?

I’m mentally preparing to relive that pain

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I know it’s not easy to find centers like Lindholm. He’s the best center we’ve had since Nieuwendyk. But do we realistically want more guys locked up into their late 30’s? I just don’t think it’s worth the risk. Maybe I’m wrong and he’s like Pavelski and he’s a stud until he’s 40. But I just think it’s better for the Flames to get younger in the long run

I think with Lindholm you do. Even if he never hits quite the level Bergeron hits, I can see him keeping up his quality of play or getting even better over the next 10 years.

I get the sentiment in wanting to trade him, though. He (should) bring a haul. But I think it’s outright wrong to call him a #2 on a contending team. Having him as the #1 and Kadri as the #2 is similar to the top 6 centre depth of cup winners like St.Louis and Boston and even Washington. Obviously other pieces really brought those cups home, but there’s a path that doesn’t involve waiting for a Crosby to fall in our laps and it includes a guy like Lindholm.

[Flamesfan05]

Problem with Lindholm is he probably wants something similar to Larkin’s except he is going to be 3 yrs older and the Flames already locked in some pretty hefty contracts

IMO, they have to trade him

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

That seems like the most Calgary Flames thing to do, so I can't argue that it's likely what happens.

It's absolutely not what should happen in my eyes. The idea of re-tooling is laughable for this team - as it's all they do, and it never works.

You sound exactly like you did in the Canadian bubble.

“No elite talent, this team needs to rebuild, not a playoff team”

The next year they have the top line in hockey and get 111pts and win the division and a round. This year the team is literally where they are because our goalie who just had a kid has been off all season and the new superstar we acquired is having a tough time adjusting to a completely new market/conference/country to play in. If we had average goaltending this team is in 1st place in the pacific.

No where near as bad as you portray

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

I mean the Huberdeau, Weegar, Kadri, Markstrom, Andersson, Mangiapane contacts. That's a lot of term.
As much as I'd favour a rebuild, I don't see it yet. I think it's more likely the team tries to tinker with chemistry before Friday but more likely in the off-season via trades. And then if it doesn't work, you have plenty of expiring deals to trade next deadline.

Mangiapane only has 2 years left after this, not much term really.

The players that this team is most committed to, in order:

Huberdeau
Weegar
Kadri
Coleman
Markstrom
Andersson

IMO this list is rather telling.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by iggyloob12

You can't retool on the fly if you trade your number-1 centre. That's a full rebuild.

Unpopular opinion but I think you can find another Lindholm in free agency / trade route in a few years if need be.

The Flames crafted their #1 centre out of a RW. He doesn't necessarily make his teammates better. You can afford to roll the dice on moving him at this point.

[CrazyCaper]

Looking at the trade market for the last two weeks, I feel that Tre missed the window. Most of the teams who were looking for what we have to offer have mad their moves and we're left on the side of the dance floor without a partner. I think we're all going to be severely disappointed when the deadline comes and goes and nothing has changed.