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Inglewood Jack · 02-14-2023, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I still want to believe "in Sutter we trust"

in general never do this with anybody when it comes to sports. people change, situations change, and blind loyalty to past results is what messes up your future chances. if you want a motto it should be "In Sutter we constantly evaluate."

Hot_Flatus · 02-14-2023, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Fire Markstrom into the sun. I have never seen a goaltender tank a team's season like Markstrom has this season for the Flames. Worst season ever by a Flames goaltender. That OT winner was laughably bad.

Bad goal to let in for sure by Markstrom, but you can't possibly ignore the completely unacceptable collapse by everyone in the final 2.5 minutes.

To not even battle hard enough to get the puck out of the zone not once, but twice, is inexcusable for a veteran team that was completely rolling all game. That game should never have been close to getting to OT, and for me, the only questionable goal (outside of the winner) is the second one, but even that was just sloppy net front coverage by the D not tying up sticks and clearing the rebound.

activeStick · 02-14-2023, 08:30 AM

6 points in last 2 games for Dube! Good to see.

Gaskal · 02-14-2023, 08:53 AM

Posted this back in Jan and so far so good haha. Yay loser point!

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Originally Posted by Gaskal

39-24-19 is my guess for seasons end lol

Losing our way into the playoffs 1 loser point at a time

Currently 25-18-11, so 14-6-8 should do it.

GioforPM · 02-14-2023, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Bad goal to let in for sure by Markstrom, but you can't possibly ignore the completely unacceptable collapse by everyone in the final 2.5 minutes.

To not even battle hard enough to get the puck out of the zone not once, but twice, is inexcusable for a veteran team that was completely rolling all game. That game should never have been close to getting to OT, and for me, the only questionable goal (outside of the winner) is the second one, but even that was just sloppy net front coverage by the D not tying up sticks and clearing the rebound.

Yeah, you can blame Markstrom for a rebound, but rebounds happen a lot, especially with an empty net and everyone crashing the crease. Lock it down. A team with the likes of Tanev, Hanifin, Zadorov, Backlund, Lindholm, Coleman etc needs to be able to get that puck out.

GioforPM · 02-14-2023, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He's only been a disaster in OT for the Flames. He was very good in OT for Florida. It's safe to say the Flames as a team this season have been a disaster in OT.

Huberdeau is not fast so on D in OT he can be a liability. But he’s also easily the most creative offensive forward, so they need him on the ice to make passes. They need to pair him up properly with fast guys so he’s not the one trying to skate back.

Kadri though, that guy has no OT sense.

Northendzone · 02-14-2023, 08:59 AM

after showing some gumption and fortitude in Buffalo - this team once again shows that they are likely very unable to win 4 out of 7 games After April 15th

cue up that video clip of Dennis Green yelling "we are who we they they are"

Yeah_Baby · 02-14-2023, 09:08 AM

I'm going to the Wild game on the 4th. Feels like it could be a big one*

*they're all big ones from now on unfortunately

Mr.Coffee · 02-14-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Huberdeau is not fast so on D in OT he can be a liability. But he’s also easily the most creative offensive forward, so they need him on the ice to make passes. They need to pair him up properly with fast guys so he’s not the one trying to skate back.

Kadri though, that guy has no OT sense.

Dube and Mangiapane are both great in OT (IMO). I also thought Toffoli was having an unreal game yesterday, so I actually don't take issue with the OT deployment.

My only critique is that I think to disrupt the building momentum shift after the 3-2 goal, and given how mentally fragile our team is, Sutter should have called a timeout to give some time / pause / try to push out the momentum build with the crowd a bit. Crowd gives energy, also gives you a chance to chat to the boys and potentially strategize a bit too.

taxbuster · 02-14-2023, 09:12 AM

What's weird to me (and I can't tell if I'm happy or disappointed) is that, so far, after this absolutely total eff-up of a season....we are STILL in a playoff position.

My concern: we buy at the TDL. Stupidly. A hockey trade is OK.

The house needs cleaning. Does this team have the balls to do it? I think not. The "just get in" mentality will win. And if we don't make it "Well, we were...close."

I was SO pissed after the collapse - even though I'd told my wife it was gonna happen. These managers are pros, paid millions to make hard decisions. Really?

Naitix · 02-14-2023, 09:14 AM

Remember the Ottawa opportunity in the second period (I think) when Zadorov fumbled the puck behind our net and Tkachuk almost scored an empty netter, did any of you notice who prevented that goal?

It was Pelletier, an incredible defensive play by him, Kelly said it was Dube but he was wrong.

Voodooman · 02-14-2023, 09:15 AM

I keep looking at Twitter and refreshing the pages here to see if there is any organizational reaction to last night. Anything at all.

But, just “part of the process” I guess, nothing to see here.

Johnny Makarov · 02-14-2023, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dustygoon

I think Sutter started OT with Lindholm, Backlund and Tanev. He wants to win the faceoff...i get that, but Tanev? Sometimes these decisions baffle me.

It was fine. as soon as we got control Hanifin jumped in for Tanev.

Johnny Makarov · 02-14-2023, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaskal

Posted this back in Jan and so far so good haha. Yay loser point!

Currently 25-18-11, so 14-6-8 should do it.

We are fine. This season has been a complete disaster and we are still in a playoff spot! Insane.

KootenayFlamesFan · 02-14-2023, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Voodooman

I keep looking at Twitter and refreshing the pages here to see if there is any organizational reaction to last night. Anything at all.

But, just “part of the process” I guess, nothing to see here.

Curious, what are you expecting to see/hear?

Johnny Makarov · 02-14-2023, 09:30 AM

ummm Everything is fine.

Triple Fine Score.

bigrangy · 02-14-2023, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dustygoon

I think Sutter started OT with Lindholm, Backlund and Tanev. He wants to win the faceoff...i get that, but Tanev? Sometimes these decisions baffle me.

With Giroux out to take the faceoff for Ottawa they were planning for the faceoff loss.

Shummy · 02-14-2023, 09:55 AM

To me this is the worst loss of the year, the most devastating for sure. Im not sure how they are going to respond to this one. The only hope they have is to ride Vladar and have Marsktrum as the backup. Daryl has given him every opportunity to get out of this year long funk hes in but its painfully obvious its not going to happen so stop tossing him in there hes costing us the season at this point and everyone knows it.

Wastedyouth · 02-14-2023, 09:59 AM

Outcoached again.

Wonderful!

activeStick · 02-14-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Voodooman

I keep looking at Twitter and refreshing the pages here to see if there is any organizational reaction to last night. Anything at all.

But, just “part of the process” I guess, nothing to see here.

How would you prefer the organization's Twitter react to the loss? Any particular message you'd wish they had tweeted, either immediately after the loss or this morning that would be more acceptable for you?