Too early to panic about Markstrom

[Badgers Nose]

I think it's definitely time to worry about Markstrom. Like, for the human being not the goalie that plays for my club. Something is wrong there psychologically. Hate to see it.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Like, you want to let the man down easy

And if we end up moving on after this year you hope he bounces back and does great wherever he lands

I hate hearing a guy say he sucks at his profession

I support him as a person speaking of another person

But it's a tough business and this is a western Canadian market. It's pretty cutthroat .. and you have a GM and coach trying to help their team have success and keep their jobs

We cant afford those numbers from our number #1 if we hope to have a shot at playoffs .. need to switch it up before it's too late

[Rejean31]

I don't know what his problem is, but get him the hell away from the team. Tell him to take the rest of the year off, go on a sabatical, go find yourself but for the love of all that is holy quit letting him choke the Flames season away!! Or let him keep playing, sell sell sell like crazy at the deadline and hope and pray we fall far enough to give ourselves a real chance at Bedard.

[GioforPM]

You have to play Vladar as starter and Markstrom as backup. You lose any trade, and he can play well enough to back up. And then if by dumb luck you get into the POs, he’s a guy that can come in with some renewed ability and win games if Vladar hits his own wall.

That’s potting a lot on a guy who’s never played much in the league though.

[ba255]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You have to play Vladar as starter and Markstrom as backup. You lose any trade, and he can play well enough to back up. And then if by dumb luck you get into the POs, he’s a guy that can come in with some renewed ability and win games if Vladar hits his own wall.

That’s potting a lot on a guy who’s never played much in the league though.

I would have to agree, give vladar the experience… give markstrom the break… yea it’s a lot to put on vladar, but it’s also a lot to force a guy who mentally isn’t confident in his game to play night in and night out!

Just my two cents tho


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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

I don't know what his problem is, but get him the hell away from the team. Tell him to take the rest of the year off, go on a sabatical, go find yourself but for the love of all that is holy quit letting him choke the Flames season away!! Or let him keep playing, sell sell sell like crazy at the deadline and hope and pray we fall far enough to give ourselves a real chance at Bedard.

Need to stop hanging around, neither 10 up nor 10 down

Rise - or fall - but for the love of god, commit to one of them

9th would be a nightmare result. Ensures we stay in no man's land and don't get much if anything out of this season

We either need to get a playoff run out of this new group or a top 10 talent out of this draft for our pretty bare cupboards

[Phaneuf_Phan]

I think Markkstrom needs some time in the minors to gain his confidence back. Waive him and bring up Wolfe. Play Vladar a lot to see if we can make the playoffs. If we can't, play Wolfe for some experience.

[chockfullofgoodness]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

I think Markkstrom needs some time in the minors to gain his confidence back. Waive him and bring up Wolfe. Play Vladar a lot to see if we can make the playoffs. If we can't, play Wolfe for some experience.

Markstrom has a full no-move clause.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

I think Markkstrom needs some time in the minors to gain his confidence back. Waive him and bring up Wolfe. Play Vladar a lot to see if we can make the playoffs. If we can't, play Wolfe for some experience.

If they succeed, then we see playoffs

If they can't handle the load then the Flames get better odds in the lottery

I'm fine with either. Just can't keep watching us ice a goalie who is struggling and unlikely to suddenly improve

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by chockfullofgoodness

Markstrom has a full no-move clause.

I'm pretty sure he would approve the chance at a fresh start

Edit: oh, in regards to a demotion..

[Dajazz]

Do we still have that goalie coach everybody here hates? Can’t remember his name.

Markstrom is not only playing like ####, he’s playing different. Sitting in the net and reacting.

This is as much coaching as confidence.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I think it's definitely time to worry about Markstrom. Like, for the human being not the goalie that plays for my club. Something is wrong there psychologically. Hate to see it.

You’re probably right about something going on in his head, but not nearly as dramatic as you’re making it out to be. I think he just lacks confidence. He doesn’t have the “it factor” that top tier goalies have, and I don’t think he ever will.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

You’re probably right about something going on in his head, but not nearly as dramatic as you’re making it out to be. I think he just lacks confidence. He doesn’t have the “it factor” that top tier goalies have, and I don’t think he ever will.

'Member that time ages ago when Markstrom was shortlisted for the Vezina?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I don’t know if “I have to have somewhere to post the same thing I’ve posted after every Markstrom loss since November” is valid, but it’s certainly a reason.

Which would be more damning if there hadn't been a brigade of CP posters that mock detractors and defend Markstroms season at every turn, which in turn results in more posts against his performance this season.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Locke

'Member that time ages ago when Markstrom was shortlisted for the Vezina?

A lot of those shutout were very much team shutouts

They really sheltered him in a lot of those games by playing virtually the whole things in the other end of the rink

He deserves credit, but he didn't steal those shutouts by any means

And they helped skew the stats to being what they were

It was a very dominant team 5 on 5 and much more defensively responsible than this one has been to this point

Full marks on the great performance against Dallas though.. no one can take that series away from him

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Which would be more damning if there hadn't been a brigade of CP posters that mock detractors and defend Markstroms season at every turn, which in turn results in more posts against his performance this season.

A “brigade”? Have you seen a PGT thread? The “brigade” is probably outnumbered 100 to 1

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Which would be more damning if there hadn't been a brigade of CP posters that mock detractors and defend Markstroms season at every turn, which in turn results in more posts against his performance this season.

I don't think this is even a thing.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

Do we still have that goalie coach everybody here hates? Can’t remember his name.

Markstrom is not only playing like ####, he’s playing different. Sitting in the net and reacting.

This is as much coaching as confidence.

Vladar has the same coach, I don't see him on his knees deep in the net.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

I think Markkstrom needs some time in the minors to gain his confidence back. Waive him and bring up Wolfe. Play Vladar a lot to see if we can make the playoffs. If we can't, play Wolfe for some experience.

There should be some minimum knowledge requirement of hockey rules to post here.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I don't think this is even a thing.

You don’t understand. Disagreeing about this or that goal and what could have been done is defending Markstrom generally. Or pointing out a huge defensive lapse on a goal is taking 100% of the blame away from him.

I think there’s a difference between posters who comment on the game generally, good and bad, and those who pop up just to comment on one player. And so called “defenders” don’t do the latter, only certain critics. It doesn’t just happen with him. Happens with Huberdeau, Kadri, hell it happens with Sutter. Just different posters.