Too early to panic about Markstrom

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What is LaBarbera doing wrong this year compared to last when Markstrom was a Vezina finalist? No goaltender ever had a year remotely close to that good under Sigalet. This is a mental thing with Markstrom so all they can do is work with him to get his confidence back which is a big thing for goaltenders. Hellebuyck was bad last season and part of the reason the Jets missed the playoffs kind of similar to Markstrom doing his best to derail the Flames playoff plans this season. This season he's a big reason the Jets are going to likely have home dates in the playoffs. I won't be surprised if Markstrom is a lot better next season as that's the way it is for goaltenders sometimes.

First of all, I agree with you, and with all of that.

But the thing I keep coming back to is that the Flames have not had a goalie that improved while on the team. A good year, followed by a weaker year, and then the team moves on.

If we had some goalies that actually improved and progressed, while here, I would accept the above arguments. But there has been zero success on the goalie front, since Kipper.

None.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

First of all, I agree with you, and with all of that.

But the thing I keep coming back to is that the Flames have not had a goalie that improved while on the team. A good year, followed by a weaker year, and then the team moves on.

If we had some goalies that actually improved and progressed, while here, I would accept the above arguments. But there has been zero success on the goalie front, since Kipper.

None.

Oh I agree. I never understood why Sigalet got the rope he did based on the results of the position where nearly every goaltender the Flames acquired got worse under his watch. I'm just not sure with Markstrom if we can blame Labarbera given Markstrom's somewhat inconsistent history. Vladar has been decent but nothing great and there's no doubt in my mind that other organizations do a much better job as coaching up the position.

[cam_wmh]

Gonna throw this out there, and if y'all don't like it throw it on back.

Change the thread title, to reflect panic.

[Monahammer]

I think it is fair at this point to say that those who were concerned in wake of the disasterous playoff performance were absolutely right to be. Markstrom looks mentally broken, unable to consistently play at NHL level. No indication at all that he will be able to rectify this. Team gets momentum crushed frequently by sloppy goals while he plays.

[Sylvanfan]

Markstrom is the new Turek. Unfortunately Sutter can't convince him to take this money over a longer timeframe and never pay him another cent.

[Locke]

Unfortunately it appears that we have missed the opportune moment to 'Panic about Markstrom.'

Prior it was presumed to have been 'Too Early.'

Well guess what....now its too late.

[Spinach]

It's never too early to panic, nor is it too late. We always panic exactly when we mean to, unless it's about Jacob Markstrom.

[McG]

I’m wondering about Markstrom’s workload. I’m sure that there’s an optimal number of games to play.

I get “playing through it” but at what point does the player or coach decide that we are bleeding points and we just need a reset.

In all walks of life, you don’t constantly keep putting your best people out to prove a point.

I hope that he gets his mojo back because the confidence that transfers to the team enables more risk taking and that leads to more goals.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

First of all, I agree with you, and with all of that.

But the thing I keep coming back to is that the Flames have not had a goalie that improved while on the team. A good year, followed by a weaker year, and then the team moves on.

If we had some goalies that actually improved and progressed, while here, I would accept the above arguments. But there has been zero success on the goalie front, since Kipper.

None.

Cam Talbot.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Cam Talbot.

The way the team played last year, Talbot could’ve given them 2.20/.920.

[Manhattanboy]

Thread name needs to be changed. If not sheer panic serious anxiety attack.

[dino7c]

I think some posters genuinely want Markstom to do bad so they can say I told you so

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think some posters genuinely want Markstom to do bad so they can say I told you so

Man I would love nothing more than Marky to turn it around, prove the doubters wrong and lead us to playoff success.

Why would anyone want anything different?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Man I would love nothing more than Marky to turn it around, prove the doubters wrong and lead us to playoff success.

Why would anyone want anything different?

who knows, odd way to be a fan

I was thrilled when I said Kylington would never be a full time NHLer and then he kicked down the door last season


Should I go bump an old thread and now that he isn't playing in the NHL!

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Man I would love nothing more than Marky to turn it around, prove the doubters wrong and lead us to playoff success.

Why would anyone want anything different?

Because there's certain players people highly dislike and Markstrom is one for some on here. Even last year some resorted to criticizing saves because he wasn't letting in enough goals.

They want the Flames to win, they would just rather it be with Vladar(or Wolf) so they don't have to admit they let their emotions get the better of them.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think some posters genuinely want Markstom to do bad so they can say I told you so

I see this kind of post but don’t see the posters to which you are referring

I really don’t see anyone wanting Marky to do poorly

Then again I don’t usually venture in to game threads

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I see this kind of post but don’t see the posters to which you are referring

I really don’t see anyone wanting Marky to do poorly

Then again I don’t usually venture in to game threads

I mean we had a tread bumped from last March earlier tonight for someone to say I toada so, I would rather not bump said thread

Cam ####ing Talbot might be here if he didn't blow an elimination game were the Flames allowed 7 goals on 7 scoring chances

[FBI]

Cut back his workload. He was playing better with a reduced workload. This isn’t rocket science.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by FBI

Cut back his workload. He was playing better with a reduced workload. This isn’t rocket science.

1000% agreed

when they played vladar for a couple and JM came back he played well

why not continue what you were doing there to a lesser extent

even pre-flames, he was alway best when rested

I'd have splits down to 60-40 for markstrom

increasing his starts to "get him in a groove" or whatever has obviously backfired

he might be able to turn in a good 60 minutes without a stretch of rapid fire gaffes if he wasn't starting 80% of the games

honestly does Sutter try to take lessons and adjust from what hasn't worked?

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by dino7c

who knows, odd way to be a fan

I was thrilled when I said Kylington would never be a full time NHLer and then he kicked down the door last season


Should I go bump an old thread and now that he isn't playing in the NHL!

Kylington is currently the opposite of a full time NHLer... Because reasons.