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Old 01-02-2023, 07:44 PM   #241
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I don’t usually buy into the generational player BS you hear every year from the Media.

But man o man. Whatever GM gets to pick Bedard is going to have a perminant hard on.

Probably their fanbase too.

Just based on skill I don't see him as good as McDavid, but rather a poor mans Crosby. He'll be good but how good who knows. McDavid and MacKinnon are another level though.
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Wow, so glad Bedard won't be an oiler....
Don't jinx it
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Chicago is ok if not east.

No Pacific teams or Canadian teams.
God..they got Kane and towes..now bedard
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Old 01-02-2023, 07:46 PM   #244
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Just based on skill I don't see him as good as McDavid, but rather a poor mans Crosby. He'll be good but how good who knows. McDavid and MacKinnon are another level though.
It is impossible to say but he is playing better than McDavid was at 17
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Well, he is not in NHL yet, he is representing Canada, so I won't get tired of hearing him everyday, all week until the tournament is over.
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It is impossible to say but he is playing better than McDavid was at 17
He is showing better than any Canadian at his age.
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Old 01-02-2023, 07:48 PM   #247
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Bedard is the next Mario.
He'll be good, but.......no.
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Old 01-02-2023, 07:49 PM   #248
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God..they got Kane and towes..now bedard
Even the best odds are only 25%
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I don't care who you are. If you watch a shrimpy kid SMASH Eric Lindroses scoring record at the WJC, you're witnessing sheer greatness the likes we haven't seen since Lindros.
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What a unreal goal and at the biggest time. This guy is going to be a pleasure to watch for a long time.
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I don't think it's too far fetched to say Lindroses record was once thought of as untouchable. That to me speaks loudly to what Bedard is and is going to be
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Just based on skill I don't see him as good as McDavid, but rather a poor mans Crosby. He'll be good but how good who knows. McDavid and MacKinnon are another level though.
The only area McDavid was better than Bedard at 17, was his skating. Vision, puck handling, passing, shooting and hockey IQ all favor Bedard imo.
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He'll be good, but.......no.
Why can't you just let me have it?
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So did I hear correctly that he has most points as a 17 year old, passing Jagr?
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The only area McDavid was better than Bedard at 17, was his skating. Vision, puck handling, passing, shooting and hockey IQ all favor Bedard imo.

I think it's more of what translates to the NHL game. McDavid's skating and stickhandling combination is deadly. Can a pretty small guy like Bedard be that dominant with above average skating? It's hard to see when guys much bigger lean on him. Even if he ends up being a better Patrick Kane or Austin Matthews that's great. But generational talent, totally not sure because that implies McDavid/Crosby. The scoring record for Team Canada, while it tells one story, there's another angle and that's the competition it was against. Complete blowout games notching a bunch of those. His skill is impressive - just want to see how it translates to the NHL as we've heard the hyping of prospects time after time at this tournament.
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My friend's and I were actually chatting during the game, wondering on average, how many kids who make the World Juniors team for Team Canada go on to play at least 1 NHL game. Couldn't find any stat for this but I'm guessing 25% of the roster (5 of the 20 players)?
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I think it's more of what translates to the NHL game. McDavid's skating and stickhandling combination is deadly. Can a pretty small guy like Bedard be that dominant with above average skating? It's hard to see when guys much bigger lean on him. Even if he ends up being a better Patrick Kane or Austin Matthews that's great. But generational talent, totally not sure because that implies McDavid/Crosby. The scoring record for Team Canada, while it tells one story, there's another angle and that's the competition it was against. Complete blowout games notching a bunch of those. His skill is impressive - just want to see how it translates to the NHL as we've heard the hyping of prospects time after time at this tournament.
I think by the end of their careers it will be easy to argue Kane and Matthews were generational talents . Both could easily go down as top 50 players all time (if not higher)

I see a Kane type player going forward , and maybe Kane+
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My friend's and I were actually chatting during the game, wondering on average, how many kids who make the World Juniors team for Team Canada go on to play at least 1 NHL game. Couldn't find any stat for this but I'm guessing 25% of the roster (5 of the 20 players)?
1 game would be way higher than that

91% based on the link below
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[QUOTE=activeStick;8552363]My friend's and I were actually chatting during the game, wondering on average, how many kids who make the World Juniors team for Team Canada go on to play at least 1 NHL game. Couldn't find any stat for this but I'm guessing 25% of the roster (5 of the 20 players)?

This study should include the data you’re looking for.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/edmont...20267.amp.html
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I think by the end of their careers it will be easy to argue Kane and Matthews were generational talents . Both could easily go down as top 50 players all time (if not higher)

I see a Kane type player going forward , and maybe Kane+
If you’re only a top 50 player then you’re not a generational talent.
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